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Positions that were mainstream in the Democratic Party 10-15 years ago are now being labeled as far right. There are a lot of normal people who haven’t changed

Positions that were mainstream in the Democratic Party 10-15 years ago are now being labeled as far right. There are a lot of normal people who haven’t changed their politics very much, but were left behind by the Democratic Party. The right happily scooped them up, as they had nowhere else to go. I think Rogan, and much of his audience fall into this camp.

karmakurtisaani 7d ago
Do you have any examples of such positions?
- al_borland 6d ago
  Illegal immigration. Preventing it, and correcting lax enforcement of the past is now labeled a maga issue, with democratic cities actively trying to work against ICE and people who support the left protesting against it. Here is a short clip of Obama, Hillary, and Bill Clinton supporting deporting illegal aliens, especially those who have broken laws. If they said this stuff today they’d be called maga. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/tb37decBZFk https://m.youtube.com/shorts/tb37decBZFk
  - rapind 6d ago
    You're taking a small slice of left progressives and applying it to all democrats to try and push this "the left are all commies" narrative. ICE is running around like the gestapo in targeted blue cities, so of course it's an issue. If they were doing this in red cities (where the crime actually is), there'd be the same push back. It's obvious that republicans are intentionally trying to create issues and division using every tool at their disposal. There won't be enough leopards for all of these faces.
    - al_borland 6d ago
      I didn’t call anyone a “commie”. The push to allow illegal immigrants to stay, or to just give them citizenship unchecked, started well before any of the more recent ICE issues. Sanctuary cities existed before Trump’s current term. If cities cooperated with ICE instead of fighting them, ICE could just go pick people up at the jail instead of ended up in this “gestapo” scenario. Federal and local governments fighting against each other is the problem here. 15-20 years ago they would have likely been on the same side of this issue and could have worked together to handle thing with more professionalism and tact. The data doesn’t seem to support crime being localized to red or blue cities. Your characterization and Trump’s both seem incorrect. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-donald-trump-claims-crime-us-cities-democrat-republican-mayors-debunked-v2/a-73855054 https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-donald-trump-claims-crime-u...

karmakurtisaani 7d ago

Do you have any examples of such positions?

al_borland 6d ago
Illegal immigration. Preventing it, and correcting lax enforcement of the past is now labeled a maga issue, with democratic cities actively trying to work against ICE and people who support the left protesting against it. Here is a short clip of Obama, Hillary, and Bill Clinton supporting deporting illegal aliens, especially those who have broken laws. If they said this stuff today they’d be called maga. https://m.youtube.com/shorts/tb37decBZFk https://m.youtube.com/shorts/tb37decBZFk
- rapind 6d ago
  You're taking a small slice of left progressives and applying it to all democrats to try and push this "the left are all commies" narrative. ICE is running around like the gestapo in targeted blue cities, so of course it's an issue. If they were doing this in red cities (where the crime actually is), there'd be the same push back. It's obvious that republicans are intentionally trying to create issues and division using every tool at their disposal. There won't be enough leopards for all of these faces.
  - al_borland 6d ago
    I didn’t call anyone a “commie”. The push to allow illegal immigrants to stay, or to just give them citizenship unchecked, started well before any of the more recent ICE issues. Sanctuary cities existed before Trump’s current term. If cities cooperated with ICE instead of fighting them, ICE could just go pick people up at the jail instead of ended up in this “gestapo” scenario. Federal and local governments fighting against each other is the problem here. 15-20 years ago they would have likely been on the same side of this issue and could have worked together to handle thing with more professionalism and tact. The data doesn’t seem to support crime being localized to red or blue cities. Your characterization and Trump’s both seem incorrect. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-donald-trump-claims-crime-us-cities-democrat-republican-mayors-debunked-v2/a-73855054 https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-donald-trump-claims-crime-u...