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One thing I love about metric paper is the beauty of the simplicity: When you fold it, it maintains its ratio. This is because it is 1:1.41, aka 1:sqrt(2) Wh
by jedberg 8d ago
One thing I love about metric paper is the beauty of the simplicity: When you fold it, it maintains its ratio. This is because it is 1:1.41, aka 1:sqrt(2)
When I saw that this new phone is 1:1.4, I instantly appreciated why it is that way. Metric paper wins again!
- fragmede 8d agoApple's submarine introduction of A* papersizes to the US.
- jedberg 8d agoOh man if this is what got the US to adopt metric paper I would be so happy.
- cyberpunk 8d ago… wait you don’t use A* paper sizes? wtf do you use then?
- jedberg 8d agoLetter, Legal, Tabloid, and Ledger: https://papersizes.io/us https://papersizes.io/us It's bizarre and makes no logical sense.
- cyberpunk 8d agoI always thought when people mentioned a “legal pad” in us tv shows they were referring to the colour which always for some inexplicable reason seemed to be… yellow or blue… now i know…
- accrual 8d agoI enjoyed the subtle shade (presumably at Samsung) when they discussed existing foldables having an awkward size, and choosing their new ratios and the asymmetric form factor. One edge square, one edge rounded, so all edges are rounded when open.
- MBCook 8d agoI suppose Google too. Basically every single one.
- mardef 8d agoIt's literally the same size as the Z Fold 8. The Samsung is $100 cheaper too.
- qlte 8d agoYep, it's same "passport" form factor as the (non-ultra) Z Fold 8, I just bought one last week and love the size.
- __aru 8d ago> I enjoyed the subtle shade (presumably at Samsung) when they discussed existing foldables having an awkward size I don't think that was subtle shade... That being said, short-and-wide foldables have been done before, they just never stuck around. Google should've stuck with it on their Pixel Fold, same for Oppo with the Find N. Shame that the short-and-wide foldables took this long to become more mainstream, since to me it's been the obvious form factor ever since I tried the older Galaxy Folds.
- iknowstuff 8d agoSamsung’s choice of square corners makes more sense for this type of device.
- qlte 8d agoI don't understand the value of the asymmetric corners, it seems to be working around their decision to have absolutely massive corner radius? Why would you want that? I have a Z Fold 8 in the same passport form factor and it has slightly rounded corners on both the front and interior screen that are symmetrical along both axes. The usable space on the front screen is greater without those edges as it's just a ... normal phone screen? Am I missing something?
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- wpm 8d agoOf all the ISO standards I wish the US would adopt, ISO216 would be it for me, hands down. I recently needed to buy some A6 thermal paper, a size no one seems to offer anymore. And who cares! Why would they! I can just buy an A4 sheet and cut it in half twice, no fuss.
- jedberg 8d agoSame here. I wish I could just use A4 paper, but usually when I put something on paper it is to share with others, who will not have an easy way to store or process it. It has to be a widely mandated switch. Like only allow A* paper for government forms or something that would force everyone to switch their paper handling infrastructure to A*.
- jonpurdy 8d agoAs a reference point, I’ve stubbornly been using A4 paper in both USA and Canada for years now with governments and businesses. Never had any problem with IRS, passport agency, CRA refusing to accept them, or even mentioning it at all in person. No problem buying it either, though it’s about 2x the price of letter. (I go through about 100-200 sheets per year mostly due to my daughter drawing on it.) I don’t actually store any printed paper since anything gets scanned and shredded, so no comment on long term filing. (Due to this experience I recently partially switched to B5 paper, which is a nice size compromise instead of A5 which would be too small. Anything A4 will print to it without scaling issues of course, just takes up a bit less space.)
- ghostly_s 8d agoI think it would be pretty rare to find a paper "storage or processing " device that can accommodate letter but not A4.
- fragmede 8d agoRare? A simple shipping cardboard box is sized to fit either A4 or letter sized piles of paper. Simple enough to change, but fairly common.
- jascha_eng 8d agoBut it makes it really weird to type one handed I think.
- ktallett 8d agoAs a reading device that is great, but as a phone that is wide.
- phforms 8d agoI see a possible future where we have ultra thin devices that can be successively unfolded to larger formats based on this ratio, making size-based product variety obsolete. After that we get screen origami.
- clarkmoody 8d agoNearly impossible to actually buy A4 paper in the US
- wpm 8d agoI can have 10 reams of Hammermill 20lb in A4 at my door in less than a week for less than $100.
- ceejayoz 8d agoAmazon typically has it; https://www.amazon.com/Hammermill-Paper-letter-Bright-Sheets/dp/B01MTJEHYA https://www.amazon.com/Hammermill-Paper-letter-Bright-Sheets... by Friday. I occasionally need some for Australian paperwork and forget where I stashed it every time. Some day I'll open a closet and find 20 reams of the stuff with a page or two missing.
- the_lucifer 6d agoFWIW, the reviews mention the size is off haha, I assumed it was the usual chunk of buyers accidentally picking up A4 instead of Letter but it seems like the A4 itself is off: 8.5"x11.5-12" instead of the 8.5"x11".
- applicative 8d agoYou get it online. I keep it around to print booklets for certain community purposes. I can set latex for A5, design the pages, then print the A5 pdf to A4 paper booklet and Tex, Mac and Brother understand with zero further brain investment from me .. . Letterpaper is a nightmare
- Johnny555 8d agoI had no problem buying a ream at Staples.
- bsimpson 8d agoThe aspect ratio is the biggest problem with foldables. The main reason I'd want a bigger display is for more immersive content like videos, which are typically 16:9. On a Pixel Fold, you have all the added complexity of the fold to make the videos you watch on the train 1cm taller. The iPhone Duo unfolds to be the same height as the iPhone Pro Max. Sounds like it has the exact same problem - a bunch of added complexity without a practical use for it. ----- > Touch ID is integrated into the side button Another major flaw with the foldable form factor - it's hard to distinguish holding the device e.g. to pocket it and holding the device to use it. My foldable does the smartphone equivalent of butt-dialing way more often than any phone I've had before because it likes to unlock itself when I'm putting it in my pocket
- drewg123 8d agoGreat point. For media consumption on the go, I use AR glasses. They are considerably cheaper than the upgrade from an 18Pro to a Duo, and give you an absolutely giant screen.
- midnightmonster 8d agoWhich AR glasses? I'm looking more for a travel MacBook virtual display that doesn't weigh so much as the Vision Pro. I would gladly trade away most of the Vision Pro features, but I'm also a huge snob about pixel density so remains to be seen if I can tolerate alternatives.
- drewg123 8d ago3+ year old XREAL Air AR Glasses. I bought them to code more effectively on my laptop at my then girlfriend (now wife)'s house. The display was too pixely and distracting for me to code on. However, its plenty good enough for videos. For videos I mostly use it with my phone (16 pro). Some apps are great (Netflix, AppleTV) and are smart enough to turn off the iPhone screen. Others (VLC, HBO) leave the screen on and burn battery at 2x-3x the rate of AppleTV or Netflix. I can watch AppleTV or Netflix on a coast-to-coast flight an still have plenty of battery left over. With HBO I use probably 20% battery per hour.
- dgellow 8d agoMy pockets don’t care much about ISO paper standards (not sure why you call it metric? That doesn’t have much to do with the metric system as far as I’m aware?)
- mietek 8d agoB1 is exactly 1 meter tall.
- dgellow 8d agoDo you call ISO216 metric in the US? Where I’m from in Europe we just call it ISO/OSI or DIN standard format
- jedberg 8d agoMost people in the US aren't aware that everyone else uses a different size of paper. Heck, most people in the US aren't even aware that there are names for the sizes of paper we do use.
- mynameisvlad 7d agoI'm pretty sure most people know letter and legal, some tabloid/ledger.
- jedberg 7d agoYou'd be surprised how many people don't know the names, only "regular paper" and "long paper"
- fundatus 8d agoIt's metric insofar that A0 has an area of exactly 1m².