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I was at a big European company that was also somehow still on Lotus Notes in 2015, for similar reasons. Moving back to Outlook after my 5 years there was a br
by steveBK123 8d ago
I was at a big European company that was also somehow still on Lotus Notes in 2015, for similar reasons. Moving back to Outlook after my 5 years there was a breath of fresh air.. for a time.
I do have to say Microsoft has spent the last decade "upgrading" their product to be a similarly painful experience though.
- cube00 8d ago> I do have to say Microsoft has spent the last decade "upgrading" their product to be a similarly painful experience though. Why Microsoft continues to burn goodwill for native Outlook to keep pushing webview "new Outlook" which isn't feature complete is beyond me. Unless we're getting webview Excel, there's no point because you won't be running Office on any other OS anyway.
- steveBK123 8d agoThis goes to my same complaint re: some Apple products. Some stuff is solved. It's fine, email / photos app / texting apps are solved problems. Keep upgrading the backends for compatibility / security / whatever, but you do not need to change the UX annually. We're done. Just stop.
- mike_hearn 8d agoI think the point is that Microsoft struggles to hire developers with any knowledge of Windows programming.
- d_silin 7d agoWhy don't they use their AI solutions for software development?
- steveBK123 7d agolol yes I’m still searching for signs of 10x productivity in SWE showing up in actual consumer facing product improvements industry wide.
- mike_hearn 7d agoWebView Outlook predates AI agents getting good.
- steveBK123 8d agoThis is a problem that one of the richest 10 companies in the world should be able to solve with time & money. Simply making your product worse is not normally a solution outside monopolies.. ah, I see.
- iso1631 7d agoMy only interaction with outlook in the last 15+ years has been via web view, as I run linux. It does the job -- indeed I find it better than modern gmail.