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How else would you explain OpenAI suddendly assembling a team focused on working the same problem from the same angle than the researchers that just made a brea

How else would you explain OpenAI suddendly assembling a team focused on working the same problem from the same angle than the researchers that just made a breakthrough?

famouswaffles 9d ago
What would be so hard to explain? That OpenAI heard about the result and decided to throw a lot of money at it knowing it was within reach ? That the model took an approach that was published years ago ?
- calf 9d ago
  That's a fake explanation, it skips explaining/justifying how OpenAi "heard about" the result
  - famouswaffles 9d ago
    We are told in the statement that there were rumours already going around about a Stokes result (I even know about the rumors in question. It was all over twitter in the right spaces) and that Tristan contacts OpenAI about the rumors. In the message, it's pretty clear Tristan has made some result. So either the rumors or Tristan's contact would explain it fine.
    - calf 9d ago
      One should not evaluate explanations based on level of "fine"/innocuousness, in ethics that is called motivated reasoning or something. The whole point of Tristan's first email was to address the issue of the rumors so in fact this explanation confounds several things (in terms of the mutual knowledge of the conversants and their intentions). Based on this lack of understanding it is pointless to continue this thread
  - tristanj 8d ago
    The rumors that Anthropic had solved a millennium problem were absolutely everywhere last week. I'm not surprised at all that OAI took their own stab at it.
    - calf 8d ago
      It has no legs as an "explanation" because the content of the email (as described) already acknowledges as much. It's the whole reason he wrote contact email. His chief complaint now includes how the hell did Altman's people know specifically his line of attack down to certain technical keywords. E.g. AI plagiarism.
    - desterothx 8d ago
      Where were you seeing those roumors? Care to point to an HN post?

How else would you explain OpenAI suddendly assembling a team focused on working the same problem from the same angle than the researchers that just made a breakthrough?

famouswaffles 9d ago

What would be so hard to explain? That OpenAI heard about the result and decided to throw a lot of money at it knowing it was within reach ? That the model took an approach that was published years ago ?

calf 9d ago
That's a fake explanation, it skips explaining/justifying how OpenAi "heard about" the result
- famouswaffles 9d ago
  We are told in the statement that there were rumours already going around about a Stokes result (I even know about the rumors in question. It was all over twitter in the right spaces) and that Tristan contacts OpenAI about the rumors. In the message, it's pretty clear Tristan has made some result. So either the rumors or Tristan's contact would explain it fine.
  - calf 9d ago
    One should not evaluate explanations based on level of "fine"/innocuousness, in ethics that is called motivated reasoning or something. The whole point of Tristan's first email was to address the issue of the rumors so in fact this explanation confounds several things (in terms of the mutual knowledge of the conversants and their intentions). Based on this lack of understanding it is pointless to continue this thread
- tristanj 8d ago
  The rumors that Anthropic had solved a millennium problem were absolutely everywhere last week. I'm not surprised at all that OAI took their own stab at it.
  - calf 8d ago
    It has no legs as an "explanation" because the content of the email (as described) already acknowledges as much. It's the whole reason he wrote contact email. His chief complaint now includes how the hell did Altman's people know specifically his line of attack down to certain technical keywords. E.g. AI plagiarism.
  - desterothx 8d ago
    Where were you seeing those roumors? Care to point to an HN post?