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US defense leadership has been pretty consistent about wanting europe to expand defense funding, but spent on american defense industry, rather than European ca

by 8note 9d ago

US defense leadership has been pretty consistent about wanting europe to expand defense funding, but spent on american defense industry, rather than European capacity and technology it has also been very unfriendly to europe building up any sovereignty, eg. to continue trading with Iran on the euro when the US pulled out of the JCPOA

0xDEAFBEAD 9d ago
>US defense leadership has been pretty consistent about wanting europe to expand defense funding, but spent on american defense industry, rather than European capacity and technology Try listening to the actual words that US leadership says instead of the creative interpretations that Europeans come up with.
- vrganj 9d ago
  We did. Maybe you should, too? You're arguing with your imagination, my friend. Your leadership actually is like that, and the ignorance makes the arrogance look worse. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-officials-object-european-push-buy-weapons-locally-2025-04-02/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us-officials-object-european-p... https://www.politico.eu/article/washington-lobbies-eu-against-buy-european-push-for-weapons-donald-trump/ https://www.politico.eu/article/washington-lobbies-eu-agains...
  - 0xDEAFBEAD 9d ago
    >"One of the self-evident conclusions of the war in Ukraine was … the European continent and America'[s] underinvestment … in [their] defense industrial base[s] — the ability to produce munitions [and] emerging technologies rapidly and field them, was a blind spot exposed through the aggression against Ukraine," he said. >The U.S., Ukraine and Europe are all expanding their industrial bases, but more must be done. https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4066810/hegseth-tells-nato-hard-power-provides-deterrence-defense/ https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/406681... US leadership has been consistent in encouraging Europe to expand its defense-industrial base. Excluding the US from weapons procurement is not the same thing.
    - vrganj 9d ago
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by 8note 9d ago

0xDEAFBEAD 9d ago

>US defense leadership has been pretty consistent about wanting europe to expand defense funding, but spent on american defense industry, rather than European capacity and technology Try listening to the actual words that US leadership says instead of the creative interpretations that Europeans come up with.

vrganj 9d ago
We did. Maybe you should, too? You're arguing with your imagination, my friend. Your leadership actually is like that, and the ignorance makes the arrogance look worse. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-officials-object-european-push-buy-weapons-locally-2025-04-02/ https://www.reuters.com/world/us-officials-object-european-p... https://www.politico.eu/article/washington-lobbies-eu-against-buy-european-push-for-weapons-donald-trump/ https://www.politico.eu/article/washington-lobbies-eu-agains...
- 0xDEAFBEAD 9d ago
  >"One of the self-evident conclusions of the war in Ukraine was … the European continent and America'[s] underinvestment … in [their] defense industrial base[s] — the ability to produce munitions [and] emerging technologies rapidly and field them, was a blind spot exposed through the aggression against Ukraine," he said. >The U.S., Ukraine and Europe are all expanding their industrial bases, but more must be done. https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/4066810/hegseth-tells-nato-hard-power-provides-deterrence-defense/ https://www.war.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/406681... US leadership has been consistent in encouraging Europe to expand its defense-industrial base. Excluding the US from weapons procurement is not the same thing.
  - vrganj 9d ago
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