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Scamming as a male can actually improve your reputation. Donald Trump is currently the president of the united states despite years of ripping people off. If Be

Scamming as a male can actually improve your reputation. Donald Trump is currently the president of the united states despite years of ripping people off. If Bernie Madoff could run as a republican senator, I'd given him decent odds to win.

philipallstar 9d ago
> If Bernie Madoff could run as a republican senator, I'd given him decent odds to win. And yet somehow he - a man - is in jail. A jail built by men, condemned by a justice system designed by men to lock bad men up.
- Aaargh20318 9d ago
  Because Madoff scammed rich people. You can get away with a lot if you scam the poor. Not so much when you target the wealthy.
  - philipallstar 9d ago
    That makes no sense within the topic of conversation.
    - shermantanktop 9d ago
      Here’s how I think it makes sense: accountability for unethical behavior arrives via more or less direct routes depending on who you are. The more you look like a high-status leader, the longer it will take, and the more likely it arrives as a fine or a suspended sentence followed by an eventual redemption story published in the New Yorker or equivalent. But targeting other high-status people ejects you from the white glove treatment.
      - philipallstar 9d ago
        I don't think it's that simple. If Bernie Sanders were an unknown, but had stabbed Iryna Zarutska on video and walked off saying he got that white girl, I'm pretty sure he would've still gone to jail and been subject to the death penalty. It's more than high-status people generally don't do that sort of thing, because you probably didn't get where you were if you were that unintelligent, violent, and impulsive. In fact, in that exact case the chap who did it was treated far too leniently by the justice system and they've un-"Progressived" the law in some ways to make it so he would never be able to do that again. Which is progress. Or at least the undoing of Progress.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 9d ago
  This is true, but I think my point still holds. If he were to get of jail, say by donating a substantial sum to Trump and then coincidentally getting a full pardon. And then he ran, I don't think that his infamy as a scammer would hurt him. If anything, that fame and name recognition would help. He could just lie and say he was framed and set up and yada yada and people would believe him.
  - philipallstar 9d ago
    True - I see what you mean. Well, I don't know if it's true, but I get the logic.
- whaleofatw2022 9d ago
  ... was in jail. He died in 2021. Curiously enough, unless something changed and nobody updated his Wikipedia page, his family didnt even collect his ashes.
  - Eddy_Viscosity2 9d ago
    Being dead doesn't necessarily mean you can't be a senator. Ask Mitch McConnel.
  - philipallstar 9d ago
    Yes - true. I keep forgetting he passed away.
gedy 9d ago
Unfortunately he was a registered Democrat.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 9d ago
  So was Trump. To a true scammer, politics is just another grift.

philipallstar 9d ago

> If Bernie Madoff could run as a republican senator, I'd given him decent odds to win. And yet somehow he - a man - is in jail. A jail built by men, condemned by a justice system designed by men to lock bad men up.

Aaargh20318 9d ago
Because Madoff scammed rich people. You can get away with a lot if you scam the poor. Not so much when you target the wealthy.
- philipallstar 9d ago
  That makes no sense within the topic of conversation.
  - shermantanktop 9d ago
    Here’s how I think it makes sense: accountability for unethical behavior arrives via more or less direct routes depending on who you are. The more you look like a high-status leader, the longer it will take, and the more likely it arrives as a fine or a suspended sentence followed by an eventual redemption story published in the New Yorker or equivalent. But targeting other high-status people ejects you from the white glove treatment.
    - philipallstar 9d ago
      I don't think it's that simple. If Bernie Sanders were an unknown, but had stabbed Iryna Zarutska on video and walked off saying he got that white girl, I'm pretty sure he would've still gone to jail and been subject to the death penalty. It's more than high-status people generally don't do that sort of thing, because you probably didn't get where you were if you were that unintelligent, violent, and impulsive. In fact, in that exact case the chap who did it was treated far too leniently by the justice system and they've un-"Progressived" the law in some ways to make it so he would never be able to do that again. Which is progress. Or at least the undoing of Progress.
Eddy_Viscosity2 9d ago
This is true, but I think my point still holds. If he were to get of jail, say by donating a substantial sum to Trump and then coincidentally getting a full pardon. And then he ran, I don't think that his infamy as a scammer would hurt him. If anything, that fame and name recognition would help. He could just lie and say he was framed and set up and yada yada and people would believe him.
- philipallstar 9d ago
  True - I see what you mean. Well, I don't know if it's true, but I get the logic.
whaleofatw2022 9d ago
... was in jail. He died in 2021. Curiously enough, unless something changed and nobody updated his Wikipedia page, his family didnt even collect his ashes.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 9d ago
  Being dead doesn't necessarily mean you can't be a senator. Ask Mitch McConnel.
- philipallstar 9d ago
  Yes - true. I keep forgetting he passed away.

gedy 9d ago

Unfortunately he was a registered Democrat.

Eddy_Viscosity2 9d ago
So was Trump. To a true scammer, politics is just another grift.