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Meaningless phrase used to dismiss arguments, please engage with the actual argument. I don't think you understand how bad it will be if anyone has a button th

Meaningless phrase used to dismiss arguments, please engage with the actual argument. I don't think you understand how bad it will be if anyone has a button that can hack anything, our infrastructure is not ready for this. Actual people will die. Do you just not get this? Bioweapons as well. Do you not understand how easy it is to craft a virus at home? You can literally order everything you need online. Again, actual people will die. You are arguing the equivalent of letting everyone own missile launchers or RPGs because "open source good."

Aspos 10d ago
If and I mean IF it will be a (A) "hack anything" button, it as well will be a (B) "find a vuln in my site" button too. And a (C) "harden my site" too. And limiting such buttons to a few corporations does not make any sense because script-kiddies will still have access to (A).
- solenoid0937 10d ago
  Did you know (C) is possible without causing mass chaos that results in many people dying? In ways that don't give every script kiddie access to (A, B)? It turns out you can give defenders the opportunity to front-run, at least on the most critical and widely used infrastructure. Same with bio risks.
  - Aspos 10d ago
    No, that's an illusion, that's the thing. You can't physically have (C) without the (A). Large corporations will spend billions trying to convince the population it is somehow possible, but the reality is different.
    - solenoid0937 10d ago
      You absolutely can have (C) without widespread (A), you just need to limit the audience that gets the tools, and in fact the big labs are already engaging in (C) in collaboration with the government and vendors of critical software. That you don't have access to (C) to harden your blog is a non-issue from a societal perspective, hardening the software that our infrastructure relies on first is simply more important.
      - Aspos 10d ago
        Limiting progress by letting only select corporations access the stuff is how you fall behind China, UAE and in a few years even Kazakhstan. Whoever wants to have access to (A) will have it, but letting only few select corporations provide (C) will mean majority will be priced out of (C). Are you a shill or something?
        expedition32 10d ago
        I very much doubt China is going to let their citizens freely use AI for hacking. In fact they keep a very tight leash on corporations and their employees.

Aspos 10d ago

If and I mean IF it will be a (A) "hack anything" button, it as well will be a (B) "find a vuln in my site" button too. And a (C) "harden my site" too. And limiting such buttons to a few corporations does not make any sense because script-kiddies will still have access to (A).

solenoid0937 10d ago
Did you know (C) is possible without causing mass chaos that results in many people dying? In ways that don't give every script kiddie access to (A, B)? It turns out you can give defenders the opportunity to front-run, at least on the most critical and widely used infrastructure. Same with bio risks.
- Aspos 10d ago
  No, that's an illusion, that's the thing. You can't physically have (C) without the (A). Large corporations will spend billions trying to convince the population it is somehow possible, but the reality is different.
  - solenoid0937 10d ago
    You absolutely can have (C) without widespread (A), you just need to limit the audience that gets the tools, and in fact the big labs are already engaging in (C) in collaboration with the government and vendors of critical software. That you don't have access to (C) to harden your blog is a non-issue from a societal perspective, hardening the software that our infrastructure relies on first is simply more important.
    - Aspos 10d ago
      Limiting progress by letting only select corporations access the stuff is how you fall behind China, UAE and in a few years even Kazakhstan. Whoever wants to have access to (A) will have it, but letting only few select corporations provide (C) will mean majority will be priced out of (C). Are you a shill or something?
      - expedition32 10d ago
        I very much doubt China is going to let their citizens freely use AI for hacking. In fact they keep a very tight leash on corporations and their employees.