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Really comes in handy to still have a couple of colonies near the equator. It's also better to have the massive amounts of emissions far away from your own pop

Really comes in handy to still have a couple of colonies near the equator. It's also better to have the massive amounts of emissions far away from your own population.

tristanj 11d ago
French Guiana is not a colony, it is a region of France. People who live there have the same constitutional rights as anyone living in mainland France. It has the same status in France as Alaska does in the US.
- pjc50 11d ago
  It's a colony even if it's legally part of France. (Had to check: free movement does apply to Guianans, but in the other direction it's not part of Schengen)
  - TFNA 11d ago
    Guianans tend to get pissed off if outsiders suggest in any way that they are any different as a French region from l'Hexagone (the French mainland). Your banging on about colonies would not be well received there.
  - sublimefire 11d ago
    Ireland is not part of Schengen as well for example, it is because that is much harder to practically achieve for folks living on islands.
    - peterfirefly 11d ago
      Ireland is not part of Schengen because the UK never was (and they wanted to keep the Common Travel Area).
  - mytailorisrich 10d ago
    France has only one citizenship, everyone holds the same French passport so everyone has the same freedom of movement within the EU. It's not in Schengen, like most overseas territories in the EU, to limit illegal immigration into the EU (see Ceuta as well). I don't thing the term "colony" holds. It is anachronic and refers to a system that no longer exists.
- artisinal 11d ago
  That's legally true, but I think it misses the distinction between formal political status and the legacy of colonialism. French Guiana is an overseas department of France, and its residents have French citizenship and constitutional rights. But that doesn't mean the historical relationship was equivalent to mainland France, or that the effects of that history disappeared when the legal status changed. The same point applies elsewhere: Guinea became independent from French colonial rule in 1958, but independence didn't magically erase the economic structures, institutions, and inequalities inherited from colonialism. Today, a large share of Guinea's population still lives in poverty despite the country's enormous natural-resource wealth. So "it's not a colony" is correct as a matter of constitutional law. But using that fact to imply that colonial history is irrelevant to present-day economic and social conditions is a much stronger claim, and one that's harder to defend.
  - 3938848484 11d ago
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  - vladms 11d ago
    While I agree with your analysis, would you think is the best to use the same generic term "colonialism" for both the situations in French Guyana and let's say Venezuela in the last year? I would prefer more words to differentiate a bit, but maybe that's just me.
  - scotty79 11d ago
    How does it compare to Alaska? Wasn't it purchased as a colony from russians to exploit Alaskan gold with complete disreagrd for opinion of the native population?
    - artisinal 11d ago
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    - MYEUHD 11d ago
      Alaska is a colony is well, and so is the rest of North America. We don't think of the US and Canada as colonies because the vast majority of the native population was genocided.
- nephihaha 11d ago
  For what it's worth, Metropolitan France used to claim Algeria wasn't a colony either.
  - peterfirefly 11d ago
    Becoming French was an amazingly good reward for being pirates and slave traders.
BSDobelix 11d ago
>Really comes in handy to still have a couple of colonies near the equator. >It's also better to have the massive amounts of emissions far away from your own population. That's the dumbest comment i read since a long time, thanks.
dopa42365 11d ago
A fully loaded Falcon 9 carries less kerosene than 1 (one single) A380. What level of concerntrolling is this?

Really comes in handy to still have a couple of colonies near the equator. It's also better to have the massive amounts of emissions far away from your own population.

tristanj 11d ago

French Guiana is not a colony, it is a region of France. People who live there have the same constitutional rights as anyone living in mainland France. It has the same status in France as Alaska does in the US.

pjc50 11d ago
It's a colony even if it's legally part of France. (Had to check: free movement does apply to Guianans, but in the other direction it's not part of Schengen)
- TFNA 11d ago
  Guianans tend to get pissed off if outsiders suggest in any way that they are any different as a French region from l'Hexagone (the French mainland). Your banging on about colonies would not be well received there.
- sublimefire 11d ago
  Ireland is not part of Schengen as well for example, it is because that is much harder to practically achieve for folks living on islands.
  - peterfirefly 11d ago
    Ireland is not part of Schengen because the UK never was (and they wanted to keep the Common Travel Area).
- mytailorisrich 10d ago
  France has only one citizenship, everyone holds the same French passport so everyone has the same freedom of movement within the EU. It's not in Schengen, like most overseas territories in the EU, to limit illegal immigration into the EU (see Ceuta as well). I don't thing the term "colony" holds. It is anachronic and refers to a system that no longer exists.
artisinal 11d ago
That's legally true, but I think it misses the distinction between formal political status and the legacy of colonialism. French Guiana is an overseas department of France, and its residents have French citizenship and constitutional rights. But that doesn't mean the historical relationship was equivalent to mainland France, or that the effects of that history disappeared when the legal status changed. The same point applies elsewhere: Guinea became independent from French colonial rule in 1958, but independence didn't magically erase the economic structures, institutions, and inequalities inherited from colonialism. Today, a large share of Guinea's population still lives in poverty despite the country's enormous natural-resource wealth. So "it's not a colony" is correct as a matter of constitutional law. But using that fact to imply that colonial history is irrelevant to present-day economic and social conditions is a much stronger claim, and one that's harder to defend.
- 3938848484 11d ago
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- vladms 11d ago
  While I agree with your analysis, would you think is the best to use the same generic term "colonialism" for both the situations in French Guyana and let's say Venezuela in the last year? I would prefer more words to differentiate a bit, but maybe that's just me.
- scotty79 11d ago
  How does it compare to Alaska? Wasn't it purchased as a colony from russians to exploit Alaskan gold with complete disreagrd for opinion of the native population?
  - artisinal 11d ago
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  - MYEUHD 11d ago
    Alaska is a colony is well, and so is the rest of North America. We don't think of the US and Canada as colonies because the vast majority of the native population was genocided.
nephihaha 11d ago
For what it's worth, Metropolitan France used to claim Algeria wasn't a colony either.
- peterfirefly 11d ago
  Becoming French was an amazingly good reward for being pirates and slave traders.

BSDobelix 11d ago

>Really comes in handy to still have a couple of colonies near the equator. >It's also better to have the massive amounts of emissions far away from your own population. That's the dumbest comment i read since a long time, thanks.

dopa42365 11d ago

A fully loaded Falcon 9 carries less kerosene than 1 (one single) A380. What level of concerntrolling is this?