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Anarchism is questioning authority for authority sake. If you put yourself in the place of authority to tell other people what's anarchism you are in for a bad
by gchamonlive 11d ago
Anarchism is questioning authority for authority sake. If you put yourself in the place of authority to tell other people what's anarchism you are in for a bad time.
The disagreement is the key value of anarchism. The dialectical pendulum, the exchange of ideas. Disagreeing is expressing anarchism, even if you disagree with the other party's understanding of anarchism.
- lrvick 11d agoMy explanation is in line with the community maintained Wikipedia articles and their sources based on a long history of anarchist history and writings, and none of it seems to be under any significant dispute. One does not need to be in a position of authority above others to help ensure discussions are grounded in common definitions of what words mean.
- gchamonlive 11d agoThe irony of you pulling credentials to illustrate how right you are about anarchism tells how much you don't understand it even if you understand the definition of the word. Anarchy is negative self-referential, you can't really define it universally without creating a paradox. For instance, even in this case that I might be right in explaining this to you, I'm wrong if I say this is anarchism categorically.
- lrvick 11d agoWhat credentials? I just pointed to supporting evidence I used the word in the way it is most commonly and publicly defined. Meanwhile you shared your own meaning as correct with no supporting evidence it is a definition commonly shared. You are free to make up your own special definitions of words that few if any share if you like. You can use the word cat to refer to a dog, for instance. It is not going to help you communicate with the majority of people who speak a mostly shared dialect of written english where words have well documented common knowledge meanings though, but you do you.
- gchamonlive 11d agoNeither making up words nor shoving their definitions in people's faces will help neither of us communicate with anyone else. These types of conversations have to happen in good faith where you assume the other party isn't a moron and conduct a productive conversation, like this one. The fact you address little to none of my points is an indicative that while you are a very good thesaurus, you don't understand much hermeneutics.
- gchamonlive 11d agoSo in good faith I went to dig a bit what's the holdout in our debate here, and it's because I didn't understand two separate uses of anarchism, the one that's epistemological, anarchism as anti-foundationalism, my point, and your point that's political. In political anarchism we don't have this pressure to question every single thing, so when you said Socialist Anarchism I should have gone and read what that is had I known this distinction beforehand. TLDR, you are right and I'm not necessarily wrong, we were just talking about two different things.
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- lrvick 10d ago> I should have gone and read what that is That is the most capacity for growth I have seen demonstrated in a while. You just gave me slightly more hope in humanity.
- gchamonlive 10d agoI just wish I had a less aggressive or snarky style of writing. Maybe then I'd invite people for a discussion and not for exchanging heartbreak, but we are products of our context and certainty is what's currently rewarded, not doubt.
- lrvick 10d ago
- analog8374 11d agoIn Orwell's 1984, control of the language was central to control of society. Newspeak and such. Consider recent quibbles over pronouns.
- alsetmusic 10d agoYou mean quibbles over how my loved-ones live life? It's not difficult. Just be respectful to someone and that's the end of it affecting you.
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- byyyuppa 11d agoGiven Orwell's strong endorsement of anarchists, it's unlikely he's lampooning anarchists in 1984...
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- gchamonlive 11d agoOne thing, I meant "Anarchism is questioning authority for authority sake" that's one single thing.
- byyyuppa 11d agoYour disagreement here is not the typical understanding. And correcting people is not pushing hierarchy. The parent poster isn't standing over you, they are standing beside you offering to educate you. You can call anarchism whatever you want, just... if you invent your own notion of the thing don't be surprised when no one understands you. Edit: I see your post much deeper on, you can ignore me.
- uyeueuduuidt 11d ago[dead]