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Your website seems to conflate "Europe" with the EU. Can you clarify, here and on the website, whether the data remains: * in _EU member state_ sovereign terr

Your website seems to conflate "Europe" with the EU. Can you clarify, here and on the website, whether the data remains: * in _EU member state_ sovereign territory * in _European states'_ sovereign territory * on the contentinent of Europe or some combination of the above? I am specifically wondering about: * Out-of-Europe territories of European states. * UK, Norway, Russia, Switzerland, Serbia etc.

steeleduncan 12d ago
The FAQ seems clear on this > Where is my code actually hosted? > On bare-metal servers that we operate in Scaleway's Paris datacenters
- Dylan16807 11d ago
  That could change at any time. They could move to an Italy datacenter owned by a different company and that would be just fine. But whether they're making a promise to stay in the EU specifically? Or whether they might expand to territories that aren't physically in Europe? That could matter, and the FAQ doesn't tell us. (And yeah the line at the top says 100% EU but that's not the full picture.)
- fph 11d ago
  I hope they also have a backup outside Paris.
saaaaaam 11d ago
In Europe people generally use “Europe” and the EU interchangeably. I’m not sure many people would include Russia in Europe in normal speech, unless they were a geographer in which case Russia is partly “Europe” in some cases I think. Even when the UK was part of the EU if someone in the UK said “Europe” they meant continental Europe and someone in continental Europe would be unlikely to mean the UK if they said Europe unless they were using “Europe” as a shorthand for the EU. When the UK was in the EU a United States American saying Europe would probably not not be including the UK in their mental model of Europe and, indeed [0], might not be very clear on what the UK actually is, because that’s confusing for the countries they agglomerate into “England” which might also include Ireland. A United States American saying “Europe” most likely means “Paris” and then maybe France, Italy, Spain or Greece but probably not Germany which is definitely the EU and everything that is wrong with the EU. But maybe Switzerland, because that very European. As a European I’m not even sure where Serbia is, or if it’s even a real country [1]. I thought it was capital of Albania [2] . Or possibly a region of North Macedonia [3] [0] only some of what I have said should be taken even part way seriously. Very little in fact [1] Obviously being satirical here [2,3] Also real countries, also European, but not necessarily “Europe” and definitely not EU. Yet.
- ZenoArrow 11d ago
  > In Europe people generally use “Europe” and the EU interchangeably. In Europe some people generally and incorrectly use "Europe" and the EU interchangeably. Europe existed far before the EU and will continue to exist after the EU finally comes to an end.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 11d ago
    > Europe existed far before the EU and will continue to exist after the EU finally comes to an end. First clause: indisputable. Second clause: maybe, maybe not. Europe hasn't always existed as a concept, and its longevity is unknown.
    - ZenoArrow 11d ago
      > Europe hasn't always existed as a concept, and its longevity is unknown. Europe is the name of a continent. What reason(s) would there be to change the name of a continent? In contrast, the EU is a trading block, set up to foster greater pan-European trading relations. It's not the only pan-European institution. For example, the Council of Europe ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Europe ) is a separate pan-European institution, set up in 1946 which was before the EU or any of the predecessors of the EU, and amongst other projects was behind the formation of the European Court of Human Rights. I bring this up to highlight that we do not need the EU in order to have collaboration between European countries.
      - PaulDavisThe1st 11d ago
        Do you think the Egyptians called it Europe? When do you think people began calling "America" "America", and why? Or referring to the largest continent as "Africa" ? I understand what your point was. I was thinking long term and noting that the future is uncertain, at best.
        ZenoArrow 8d ago
bojan 11d ago
From the website: "Your repos never leave the EU" That's clear enough I think.

steeleduncan 12d ago

The FAQ seems clear on this > Where is my code actually hosted? > On bare-metal servers that we operate in Scaleway's Paris datacenters

Dylan16807 11d ago
That could change at any time. They could move to an Italy datacenter owned by a different company and that would be just fine. But whether they're making a promise to stay in the EU specifically? Or whether they might expand to territories that aren't physically in Europe? That could matter, and the FAQ doesn't tell us. (And yeah the line at the top says 100% EU but that's not the full picture.)
fph 11d ago
I hope they also have a backup outside Paris.

saaaaaam 11d ago

In Europe people generally use “Europe” and the EU interchangeably. I’m not sure many people would include Russia in Europe in normal speech, unless they were a geographer in which case Russia is partly “Europe” in some cases I think. Even when the UK was part of the EU if someone in the UK said “Europe” they meant continental Europe and someone in continental Europe would be unlikely to mean the UK if they said Europe unless they were using “Europe” as a shorthand for the EU. When the UK was in the EU a United States American saying Europe would probably not not be including the UK in their mental model of Europe and, indeed [0], might not be very clear on what the UK actually is, because that’s confusing for the countries they agglomerate into “England” which might also include Ireland. A United States American saying “Europe” most likely means “Paris” and then maybe France, Italy, Spain or Greece but probably not Germany which is definitely the EU and everything that is wrong with the EU. But maybe Switzerland, because that very European. As a European I’m not even sure where Serbia is, or if it’s even a real country [1]. I thought it was capital of Albania [2] . Or possibly a region of North Macedonia [3] [0] only some of what I have said should be taken even part way seriously. Very little in fact [1] Obviously being satirical here [2,3] Also real countries, also European, but not necessarily “Europe” and definitely not EU. Yet.

ZenoArrow 11d ago
> In Europe people generally use “Europe” and the EU interchangeably. In Europe some people generally and incorrectly use "Europe" and the EU interchangeably. Europe existed far before the EU and will continue to exist after the EU finally comes to an end.
- PaulDavisThe1st 11d ago
  > Europe existed far before the EU and will continue to exist after the EU finally comes to an end. First clause: indisputable. Second clause: maybe, maybe not. Europe hasn't always existed as a concept, and its longevity is unknown.
  - ZenoArrow 11d ago
    > Europe hasn't always existed as a concept, and its longevity is unknown. Europe is the name of a continent. What reason(s) would there be to change the name of a continent? In contrast, the EU is a trading block, set up to foster greater pan-European trading relations. It's not the only pan-European institution. For example, the Council of Europe ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Europe ) is a separate pan-European institution, set up in 1946 which was before the EU or any of the predecessors of the EU, and amongst other projects was behind the formation of the European Court of Human Rights. I bring this up to highlight that we do not need the EU in order to have collaboration between European countries.
    - PaulDavisThe1st 11d ago
      Do you think the Egyptians called it Europe? When do you think people began calling "America" "America", and why? Or referring to the largest continent as "Africa" ? I understand what your point was. I was thinking long term and noting that the future is uncertain, at best.
      - ZenoArrow 8d ago

bojan 11d ago

From the website: "Your repos never leave the EU" That's clear enough I think.