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Both OAI and Anthropic seem to have released a model that is slightly better but cost ~2x the previous iteration. Interesting play
by ramon156 12d ago
Both OAI and Anthropic seem to have released a model that is slightly better but cost ~2x the previous iteration. Interesting play
- simianwords 12d agoInteresting comment because it is true that Astra is costlier for the same intelligence tasks as Sol. But this is not the same for Fable at all.
- kzrdude 12d agoThat should be expected based on the scaling laws that we expect; larger models are more intelligent and cost more. Now it's very unfortunately that they don't publish the size of their models.
- arthurcolle 12d agoAstra and Sol are the same price when you factor in token efficiency
- Squarex 11d agoI don't know, in the Codex app, it burns the limit much faster.
- sscaryterry 11d agoBullshit.
- arthurcolle 11d agoNot bullshit
- sscaryterry 11d agoMost certainly is.
- jstummbillig 11d agoRoughly how we price (high skilled) human labor.
- villish 11d agoThat likely won’t change if other competitors don’t take the lead at some point. If companies are willing to pay top dollar for the best models AND they get to extract as much money from Chinese labs distilling Astra/Fable it makes no sense to lower prices. Obviously not great for everyday users who don’t have unlimited money.
- skrellm 11d ago> If companies are willing to pay top dollar for the best models But they are not willing to pay. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49566137 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49566137 The referenced NYT article says Open Source LLM's market share increased to 58% from yesteryear's 10%.
- villish 11d ago(58% on OpenRouter) I believe both things can be true. OAI/Anthropic selling more tokens than ever, and downloadable weight models increasing in market share. I doubt OpenAI would copy Fables pricing if it wasn’t financially beneficial. They can only burn through VC funding for so long.
- dgellow 11d agoI don’t think we have data showing that fable is used significantly
- torginus 11d agoGenerally speaking 'the Fable/Astra built GTA 6' videos are a new phenomenon, so it's clear these models have new capabilities and people will need new ways of interacting with them if they want to leverage these imo.