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The pricing is bananas. Why on earth is the bandwidth metered? An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited
by FabCH 12d ago
The pricing is bananas. Why on earth is the bandwidth metered?
An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited bandwidth.
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- p-e-w 12d agoBut it’s in the EU! Which is obviously extremely important for static hosting.
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- mtlynch 12d ago> An EU tiny VPS on Scaleway with unlimited bandwidth costs 5€. This thing costs 9€. With limited bandwidth. statichost.eu is a CDN,[0] not a single static host. Your VPS is the single point of failure, so if that one system goes down, your site is offline. With a VPS, you'd also have to roll your own atomic updates, which is not the hardest thing in the world, but it's also not trivial. Compare it to static hosting pricing at Netlify, Firebase Hosting, and Vercel, and it's competitive, but you should expect to pay more for a service run by a small vendor who doesn't have the economies of scale or VC money that the bigger competitors have. [0] They're an abstraction on top of Bunny, who provides the actual CDN, statichost assumes responsibility for providing the CDN regardless of underlying infrastructure.
- flyingshelf 11d agoNetlify and vercel have a generous free tier, I never paid a dime. What you might eventually pay for in those services is the exceptional DX, which this amateurish service will never get close to. All this to say that 9€/month is way too expensive.
- mtlynch 11d agoWhat's the price that you expect to pay to a service run by a single person that has to keep your website available 24/7? I get frustrated that people seem pretty aware of the enshittification and centralization of large services, but when an indie vendor pops up that can fill a niche, people expect it to have all the bells and whistles of a billion dollar company and also give everything away for free. If you have a just for fun website, then yeah, hop around the free tiers of whatever hosting service. If you're running any kind of online business, the difference between free and 9€/month for web hosting is a rounding error to pretty much any other business expenses you have. Also, keep in mind that on the 9€/month plan, that's the max you pay. With Vercel, Netlify, Firebase, etc., if you get hit with a bot attack, they come after you for $100k+ and you have to beg on social media for them to call off the collectors.[0] [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1b14bty/netlify_just_sent_me_a_104k_bill_for_a_simple/ https://old.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/1b14bty/netlify_jus...
- flyingshelf 11d agoThat's a lie. 9€ is not the max you pay, it's metered and extra traffic costs extra. So what you said about others can just as well apply here. What I see is some homemade service that costs $125/year and has little to show for it. There's nothing about what it offers on the website, the homepage has a handful of words. It claims "CDN" but doesn't say anything about what the exit points are. All I see is two "datacenters" in Northern Europe on the status page. Heck even the CDN is in "private beta" so what are we paying for exactly? Lots of services in Europe are already available for 2-5€/month for the current level of service. What I see is a 9€ ask for a list of promises. That's too much.
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- FabCH 11d agoCan I just point out that either the vendor is small and therefor can’t actually offer the N+2 reliability you list as a weakness of self-hosting, or they are large enough for N+2 but then stop being small. My tiny website doesn’t need a CDN and doesn’t need atomic updates.
- mtlynch 11d ago> Can I just point out that either the vendor is small and therefor can’t actually offer the N+2 reliability you list as a weakness of self-hosting, or they are large enough for N+2 but then stop being small. I don't understand what you mean. surge.sh and statichost.eu are both small vendors that offer redundancy. Are you saying they're not really small or not really offering N+2 reliability?
- FabCH 11d agoFrom what they list on the website, they don’t offer N+2 reliability / they are not present in sufficient geos to actually act as a CDN.
- mtlynch 11d agoWhich vendor are you talking about? As I mentioned upthread, statichost.eu uses Bunny under the covers, and I think you'd be hard-pressed to argue that Bunny isn't a CDN. surge.sh has servers in 10 regions.[0] It's not trivial to run a static host with redundancy in multiple regions, but it's also not so absurdly complex that only large vendors can achieve it. [0] https://surge.sh/network https://surge.sh/network
- chanux 12d agoI checked yesterday because they were about to close my account and found Scaleway is a bit expensive. Just checked again and found a DEV configuration for ~€6.55 and STARDUST for ~€0.43 which is interesting.