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> Well I don’t really know what to work on next Let me help you: work on figuring out how to spend the millions of dollars every year Jane Street will pay you

by piker 12d ago

> Well I don’t really know what to work on next Let me help you: work on figuring out how to spend the millions of dollars every year Jane Street will pay you to clock in. I've heard private aviation is expensive, for example. :)

walrus01 12d ago
Google says "Jane Street has global office locations in New York, London, Hong Kong, Singapore, Amsterdam, and Chicago" so if you're really at a loss where to spend your money, I would recommend searching for yacht dealerships in those cities. I'm sure it won't be a problem anymore.
bko 12d ago
A lot of places claim they want to hire extremely smart autists, and some do. But these types of employees are incredibly hard to manage. Imagine herding cats. So if you don't invest a lot of effort in building an environment to let this person cook, go down the right rabbit holes and not rub others the wrong way, a person like this is a huge liability to the org.
- folkrav 12d ago
  Please, explain how you determined this person was an "extremely smart autist".
  - anitil 12d ago
    I took it as a compliment!
    - folkrav 12d ago
      I find it hard to believe that saying autistic people are "incredibly hard to manage", that managing them is like "herding cats" and their presence is a "huge liability to the org" is anywhere near complimentary. Autism presents in thousands of ways, and the portrayal is, at best, caricatural.
      - bko 12d ago
        Okay dude, don't need to white knight autists. There's a particular archetype of extremely intelligent and technical yet socially unaware or prickly people that's not unfounded in reality. These are the people who do incredible feats. You need a degree of unagreeableness and arrogance to go against the grain and accomplish great things. It's a thing, I assure you. And it's pretty common parlance in online / technical culture. We don't need to word police this thing.
- vovavili 12d ago
  A lot of companies who claim to want highly intelligent and autonomous engineers by revealed preference actually want glorified slightly above average ticket pushers. At least by the looks of it, Jane Street appears to be an odd one to genuinely value competence.
  - bluGill 12d ago
    There are a lot of incredibly smart non-autists. Or maybe slightly autistic, but enough awareness of the real world that they can be managed.
    - Emma_Goldman 12d ago
      The strong affinity between autism and intelligence seems strongest in technical fields, and engineering and computer science in particular. Autism does not seem to be over-represented to anywhere near the same degree in many other domains that are full of intelligent people.
      - skinfaxi 12d ago
        Is this just from your direct experience or do you have data to back that up? Are you talking about credentialed engineering like mechanical or civil engineering or just software developers?
        strken 12d ago
        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9058071/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9058071/ (if "strong affinity" means "bimodal distribution and I ignore the lower pole") https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38497251/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38497251/ (if "engineering and computer science" means "IT") I don't know if it's actually true but the idea is interesting.
        Emma_Goldman 12d ago
        There's plenty of data on the clustering of high-functioning autistic workers in engineering and computer science, and the massively disproportionate share of autistic children with fathers and grandfathers in those fields. I work across technical and non-technical academic fields and the difference is quite obvious. It also follows naturally from some of the common presentations of autism, e.g., the high co-occurrence of dyslexia.
verteu 12d ago
> Let me help you: work on figuring out how to spend the millions of dollars every year Jane Street will pay you to clock in. Does Jane Street really pay that much? Of course 7 figures is possible, but these median comps seem lower than FAANG (and with much higher workload): https://www.levels.fyi/companies/jane-street/salaries/software-engineer?country=254 https://www.levels.fyi/companies/jane-street/salaries/softwa...

by piker 12d ago

walrus01 12d ago

Google says "Jane Street has global office locations in New York, London, Hong Kong, Singapore, Amsterdam, and Chicago" so if you're really at a loss where to spend your money, I would recommend searching for yacht dealerships in those cities. I'm sure it won't be a problem anymore.

bko 12d ago

A lot of places claim they want to hire extremely smart autists, and some do. But these types of employees are incredibly hard to manage. Imagine herding cats. So if you don't invest a lot of effort in building an environment to let this person cook, go down the right rabbit holes and not rub others the wrong way, a person like this is a huge liability to the org.

folkrav 12d ago
Please, explain how you determined this person was an "extremely smart autist".
- anitil 12d ago
  I took it as a compliment!
  - folkrav 12d ago
    I find it hard to believe that saying autistic people are "incredibly hard to manage", that managing them is like "herding cats" and their presence is a "huge liability to the org" is anywhere near complimentary. Autism presents in thousands of ways, and the portrayal is, at best, caricatural.
    - bko 12d ago
      Okay dude, don't need to white knight autists. There's a particular archetype of extremely intelligent and technical yet socially unaware or prickly people that's not unfounded in reality. These are the people who do incredible feats. You need a degree of unagreeableness and arrogance to go against the grain and accomplish great things. It's a thing, I assure you. And it's pretty common parlance in online / technical culture. We don't need to word police this thing.
vovavili 12d ago
A lot of companies who claim to want highly intelligent and autonomous engineers by revealed preference actually want glorified slightly above average ticket pushers. At least by the looks of it, Jane Street appears to be an odd one to genuinely value competence.
- bluGill 12d ago
  There are a lot of incredibly smart non-autists. Or maybe slightly autistic, but enough awareness of the real world that they can be managed.
  - Emma_Goldman 12d ago
    The strong affinity between autism and intelligence seems strongest in technical fields, and engineering and computer science in particular. Autism does not seem to be over-represented to anywhere near the same degree in many other domains that are full of intelligent people.
    - skinfaxi 12d ago
      Is this just from your direct experience or do you have data to back that up? Are you talking about credentialed engineering like mechanical or civil engineering or just software developers?
      - strken 12d ago
        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9058071/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9058071/ (if "strong affinity" means "bimodal distribution and I ignore the lower pole") https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38497251/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38497251/ (if "engineering and computer science" means "IT") I don't know if it's actually true but the idea is interesting.
      - Emma_Goldman 12d ago
        There's plenty of data on the clustering of high-functioning autistic workers in engineering and computer science, and the massively disproportionate share of autistic children with fathers and grandfathers in those fields. I work across technical and non-technical academic fields and the difference is quite obvious. It also follows naturally from some of the common presentations of autism, e.g., the high co-occurrence of dyslexia.

verteu 12d ago

> Let me help you: work on figuring out how to spend the millions of dollars every year Jane Street will pay you to clock in. Does Jane Street really pay that much? Of course 7 figures is possible, but these median comps seem lower than FAANG (and with much higher workload): https://www.levels.fyi/companies/jane-street/salaries/software-engineer?country=254 https://www.levels.fyi/companies/jane-street/salaries/softwa...