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The government in the US isn’t for the people.

N_Lens 13d ago
The government in the US is for people (corporations).
sneak 13d ago
No government in any place is for the people that aren’t the people that comprise the government. They will, of course, all tell you otherwise.
- ra 13d ago
  except maybe Japan?
- kakacik 13d ago
  Switzerland? Singapore? Japan? Bhutan? Islands of prosperity in general.
  - TitaRusell 13d ago
    No country started out as an island of prosperity. They got there through hard work, sensible decision making and yes a little luck. When in the 16th century all of Europe got involved in religious wars a Dutch leader decided that religion was a personal choice. This was not magic everyone could have come to this conclusion. But noone did.
- spiderfarmer 13d ago
  I drove over a perfectly paved road today. My wife went to a hospital that was run perfectly. No charge. The food I ate today was safe. There's almost no criminal activity here. We do not have any active wars.
  - sneak 13d ago
    Do you live in Singapore, which this set of items perfectly describes? In Singapore, the state decides what media you are allowed to receive, to preserve the continuity of the state at your expense. In Singapore, you can be jailed for displaying certain flags. The list you gave doesn’t refute my point in any way whatsoever. How many paved roads and public hospitals does it take to offset a government depriving you of human rights to protect the state itself?
    - spiderfarmer 13d ago
      The Netherlands. I’m alive thanks to the policies of the government. I don’t mind investing time, money and effort in a well run society. A better society starts with you.
      - sneak 12d ago
        Your tax money is actively engaged in a war, so at least one of your claims is false. Also, many countries that aren’t well-run also have roads, so there goes another one. https://www.government.nl/themes/international-cooperation/russia-and-ukraine/dutch-aid-for-ukraine https://www.government.nl/themes/international-cooperation/r... It’s somewhat of a stretch to claim that the Dutch society is “well run”, but you know that already.
        spiderfarmer 12d ago
        Travel more.
        sneak 12d ago
        I’m confused. I’ve been to most of the countries in Europe, I’ve been to Russia, China, Thailand, Japan, North and South Korea, USA/Canada/Mexico. What am I missing? I’m perplexed by your reply.
  - DivingForGold 13d ago
    No criminal activity ? Yeah, I have wandered mistakenly into the backstreets of Amsterdam and been approached by drug dealers.
    - spiderfarmer 12d ago
      And your experience in a back ally of a tourist place is representative for all people who pay taxes in The Netherlands because.....?
blooalien 12d ago
> The government in the US isn’t for the people. Sure it is, but only the really rich people...

The government in the US is for people (corporations).

sneak 13d ago

No government in any place is for the people that aren’t the people that comprise the government. They will, of course, all tell you otherwise.

ra 13d ago
except maybe Japan?
kakacik 13d ago
Switzerland? Singapore? Japan? Bhutan? Islands of prosperity in general.
- TitaRusell 13d ago
  No country started out as an island of prosperity. They got there through hard work, sensible decision making and yes a little luck. When in the 16th century all of Europe got involved in religious wars a Dutch leader decided that religion was a personal choice. This was not magic everyone could have come to this conclusion. But noone did.
spiderfarmer 13d ago
I drove over a perfectly paved road today. My wife went to a hospital that was run perfectly. No charge. The food I ate today was safe. There's almost no criminal activity here. We do not have any active wars.
- sneak 13d ago
  Do you live in Singapore, which this set of items perfectly describes? In Singapore, the state decides what media you are allowed to receive, to preserve the continuity of the state at your expense. In Singapore, you can be jailed for displaying certain flags. The list you gave doesn’t refute my point in any way whatsoever. How many paved roads and public hospitals does it take to offset a government depriving you of human rights to protect the state itself?
  - spiderfarmer 13d ago
    The Netherlands. I’m alive thanks to the policies of the government. I don’t mind investing time, money and effort in a well run society. A better society starts with you.
    - sneak 12d ago
      Your tax money is actively engaged in a war, so at least one of your claims is false. Also, many countries that aren’t well-run also have roads, so there goes another one. https://www.government.nl/themes/international-cooperation/russia-and-ukraine/dutch-aid-for-ukraine https://www.government.nl/themes/international-cooperation/r... It’s somewhat of a stretch to claim that the Dutch society is “well run”, but you know that already.
      - spiderfarmer 12d ago
        Travel more.
        sneak 12d ago
        I’m confused. I’ve been to most of the countries in Europe, I’ve been to Russia, China, Thailand, Japan, North and South Korea, USA/Canada/Mexico. What am I missing? I’m perplexed by your reply.
- DivingForGold 13d ago
  No criminal activity ? Yeah, I have wandered mistakenly into the backstreets of Amsterdam and been approached by drug dealers.
  - spiderfarmer 12d ago
    And your experience in a back ally of a tourist place is representative for all people who pay taxes in The Netherlands because.....?

blooalien 12d ago

> The government in the US isn’t for the people. Sure it is, but only the really rich people...