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Okay thanks, so here's what I don't understand. When there is video evidence that someone was in their house the whole time, and given that everyone who has use

Okay thanks, so here's what I don't understand. When there is video evidence that someone was in their house the whole time, and given that everyone who has used a GPS knows it can easily be inaccurate by 30ft, why in the world would the judge trust the ankle monitor accuracy over video footage they see with their own eyes that directly contradicts it? Something about this just doesn't seem very plausible, especially if this kind of thing is happening more than once in a blue moon. Either the video evidence is not as convincing as we're being led to assume (thus leaving more doubt in the judge's mind than ours, even if the person is innocent), or there should be some other explanation.

chaps 13d ago
I don't know what to tell you besides yes, it's really that bad. A lot of it is just people passing the buck down the road, a lot of it (at the time) was covid, a lot of it was the difficulty of people on EM to publicly talk about their situation. Defense attorneys just want to get their clients out of jail and a lot of the EM stuff is a distraction to that. It's very much a, "we'll put in a ticket" sort of situation across many moving parts. Lawyers began telling their clients to film themselves in their homes at all times so that they could prove to judges that they were in their homes when the devices went off. That's advice they give because the risks of not doing that are going back into jail. And to prove all that, you still have to go through all that process, filming yourself, etc. It's truly bad.
lazyasciiart 13d ago
Everyone knows video footage can be faked. Why would the judge ever trust video provided by the defendant over serious professional technology like GPS? Might as well just take their word for it! What’s funny here is that you are displaying misplaced trust in the justice system that exactly parallels my hypothetical judge’s misplaced trust in technology.
- GJim 13d ago
  > Everyone knows video footage can be faked. Everyone also knows GPS can be spoofed. Your point?
  - lazyasciiart 12d ago
    No, most people don't know GPS can be spoofed, or at best think of it as a nation-state level action. I'd be surprised if you got less than 100% of non-tech people saying that if GPS contradicts a video then the video is faked.
    - GJim 10d ago
      > No, most people don't know GPS can be spoofed LOL! Everybody who has played Pokemon Go knows it can be spoofed!
      - chaps 9d ago
        Since when are Pokemon Go players representative of everyone else? Methinks you should surround yourself with fewer technical people if your goal is to understand what's generally understood about the world.
masfuerte 12d ago
Why did literally hundreds of judges in the UK accept bogus evidence from the Post Office and Fujitsu leading to nearly 900 innocent postmasters being convicted? Because judges are nearly always the kind of people who instinctively trust authority. They wouldn't be judges otherwise. Hope that helps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal

chaps 13d ago

I don't know what to tell you besides yes, it's really that bad. A lot of it is just people passing the buck down the road, a lot of it (at the time) was covid, a lot of it was the difficulty of people on EM to publicly talk about their situation. Defense attorneys just want to get their clients out of jail and a lot of the EM stuff is a distraction to that. It's very much a, "we'll put in a ticket" sort of situation across many moving parts. Lawyers began telling their clients to film themselves in their homes at all times so that they could prove to judges that they were in their homes when the devices went off. That's advice they give because the risks of not doing that are going back into jail. And to prove all that, you still have to go through all that process, filming yourself, etc. It's truly bad.

lazyasciiart 13d ago

Everyone knows video footage can be faked. Why would the judge ever trust video provided by the defendant over serious professional technology like GPS? Might as well just take their word for it! What’s funny here is that you are displaying misplaced trust in the justice system that exactly parallels my hypothetical judge’s misplaced trust in technology.

GJim 13d ago
> Everyone knows video footage can be faked. Everyone also knows GPS can be spoofed. Your point?
- lazyasciiart 12d ago
  No, most people don't know GPS can be spoofed, or at best think of it as a nation-state level action. I'd be surprised if you got less than 100% of non-tech people saying that if GPS contradicts a video then the video is faked.
  - GJim 10d ago
    > No, most people don't know GPS can be spoofed LOL! Everybody who has played Pokemon Go knows it can be spoofed!
    - chaps 9d ago
      Since when are Pokemon Go players representative of everyone else? Methinks you should surround yourself with fewer technical people if your goal is to understand what's generally understood about the world.

masfuerte 12d ago

Why did literally hundreds of judges in the UK accept bogus evidence from the Post Office and Fujitsu leading to nearly 900 innocent postmasters being convicted? Because judges are nearly always the kind of people who instinctively trust authority. They wouldn't be judges otherwise. Hope that helps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Post_Office_scandal