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I can only assume somebody was asleep on the job when this scheme was approved, because the outcome is in direct contradiction to ICANN’s mission statement: >

by jl6 13d ago

I can only assume somebody was asleep on the job when this scheme was approved, because the outcome is in direct contradiction to ICANN’s mission statement: > Its enduring mission is to ensure the stable, secure operation of the Internet's unique identifier systems. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/about-icann https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/about-icann Arbitrary termination of service is not stability. Enabling name hijacking is not security. The answer cannot be a rival name scheme based on decentralization or crypto or whatever. Those are never going to help normal non-wizard users. The answer has to be to make the regulators do their job.

ALLTaken 13d ago
Sorry, I don't understand this rule, would someone kindly explain? I own lastname.name and use it for email only like this: firstname@lastname.name I always thought as owner of lastname.name, I'm the only one able to add subdomain.lastname.name. Is this wrong?? 1) Can anyone "buy" scam.lastname.name without my authorization on .name?? 2) Can anyone owning not.lastname.name then steal my emails going to: firstname@*.lastname.name or even firstname@lastname.name?? BUT: If someone ONLY bought not.lastname.name and doesn't own lastname.name, they'll get terminated. Would that be 'good' as it would stop 1) and 2) ?? I'm really concerned. My family is using first@lastname.name as the personal email, I'm hosting and paying for since many years.
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- judge2020 13d ago
  > I always thought as owner of lastname.name, I'm the only one able to add subdomain.lastname.name. Is this wrong?? TFA mentions that `.name` was unique in that it sold a good amount of third-level domain names directly from the registry.
- iminatx 12d ago
  No, that's not how it works. If you have registered the 2LD you have exclusive control of it, and only you can delegate a subdomain under it. However, a great number of common first and last names are reserved as 2LDs by the registry and cannot be registered by anyone; instead, third-level registrations under those 2LDs are available. Also, if someone does register a 3LD under a previously non-reserved 2LD, the 2LD will be reserved reactively so that no one can register it.
- calfuris 12d ago
  You are entirely unaffected by this, because you registered a 2nd-level domain. The problem is for the people who registered 3rd-level domains (john.smith.name). If you're wondering why anyone would do that, it's because it was originally the only option if you wanted a .name domain.
TLDRisk 13d ago
It's been through the Ombuds and a reconsideration request [1]. ICANN says: > There will not be any effect on the life cycle of domain names. While the Requestor may disagree with Verisign’s response, the Requestor has not shown that ICANN relied upon false or inaccurate material information. The life cycle of a domain name begins when the domain is registered, then moves through various stages before ultimately coming to a close. Early termination of a domain registration does not impact the life cycle of the domain, as the domain can still go through the various stages of a standard life cycle. Moreover, as stated above, ICANN was aware that discontinuation of these registry services in the .NAME gTLD would result in the termination of approximately 22,000 third-level domain registrations and of email services/addresses. I don't agree. If I have a domain registered for 10 years the expected life cycle is for deletion to occur 10 years from now, not 90 days from now. They've changed the life cycle by changing the agreed upon deletion date for the current registration term. I could maybe see if they stop accepting renewals and delete the domains as they expire. It's not a good look, but at least people are getting what they've been promised. 1. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/reconsideration-26-2-spiridonov-request-2026-06-04-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/reconsideration-26-2-s...
- bilkow 13d ago
  Let's pretend it's OK for them to just drop your domain, ignoring the stability and security issues that arise from that (and how ICANN should prevent that, in theory). How about the fact that you paid for a service for 10 years and they decided to stop providing it midway? Will you at least get a refund? If not, that's surely illegal right?
- Calavar 13d ago
  > Early termination of a domain registration does not impact the life cycle of the domain, as the domain can still go through the various stages of a standard life cycle. According to ICANN cutting the life cycle short doesn't have any effect on the life cycle? ICANN corruption is at the level of FIFA corruption.
  - disillusioned 13d ago

by jl6 13d ago

ALLTaken 13d ago

Sorry, I don't understand this rule, would someone kindly explain? I own lastname.name and use it for email only like this: firstname@lastname.name I always thought as owner of lastname.name, I'm the only one able to add subdomain.lastname.name. Is this wrong?? 1) Can anyone "buy" scam.lastname.name without my authorization on .name?? 2) Can anyone owning not.lastname.name then steal my emails going to: firstname@*.lastname.name or even firstname@lastname.name?? BUT: If someone ONLY bought not.lastname.name and doesn't own lastname.name, they'll get terminated. Would that be 'good' as it would stop 1) and 2) ?? I'm really concerned. My family is using first@lastname.name as the personal email, I'm hosting and paying for since many years.

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judge2020 13d ago
> I always thought as owner of lastname.name, I'm the only one able to add subdomain.lastname.name. Is this wrong?? TFA mentions that `.name` was unique in that it sold a good amount of third-level domain names directly from the registry.
iminatx 12d ago
No, that's not how it works. If you have registered the 2LD you have exclusive control of it, and only you can delegate a subdomain under it. However, a great number of common first and last names are reserved as 2LDs by the registry and cannot be registered by anyone; instead, third-level registrations under those 2LDs are available. Also, if someone does register a 3LD under a previously non-reserved 2LD, the 2LD will be reserved reactively so that no one can register it.
calfuris 12d ago
You are entirely unaffected by this, because you registered a 2nd-level domain. The problem is for the people who registered 3rd-level domains (john.smith.name). If you're wondering why anyone would do that, it's because it was originally the only option if you wanted a .name domain.

TLDRisk 13d ago

It's been through the Ombuds and a reconsideration request [1]. ICANN says: > There will not be any effect on the life cycle of domain names. While the Requestor may disagree with Verisign’s response, the Requestor has not shown that ICANN relied upon false or inaccurate material information. The life cycle of a domain name begins when the domain is registered, then moves through various stages before ultimately coming to a close. Early termination of a domain registration does not impact the life cycle of the domain, as the domain can still go through the various stages of a standard life cycle. Moreover, as stated above, ICANN was aware that discontinuation of these registry services in the .NAME gTLD would result in the termination of approximately 22,000 third-level domain registrations and of email services/addresses. I don't agree. If I have a domain registered for 10 years the expected life cycle is for deletion to occur 10 years from now, not 90 days from now. They've changed the life cycle by changing the agreed upon deletion date for the current registration term. I could maybe see if they stop accepting renewals and delete the domains as they expire. It's not a good look, but at least people are getting what they've been promised. 1. https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/reconsideration-26-2-spiridonov-request-2026-06-04-en https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/reconsideration-26-2-s...

bilkow 13d ago
Let's pretend it's OK for them to just drop your domain, ignoring the stability and security issues that arise from that (and how ICANN should prevent that, in theory). How about the fact that you paid for a service for 10 years and they decided to stop providing it midway? Will you at least get a refund? If not, that's surely illegal right?
Calavar 13d ago
> Early termination of a domain registration does not impact the life cycle of the domain, as the domain can still go through the various stages of a standard life cycle. According to ICANN cutting the life cycle short doesn't have any effect on the life cycle? ICANN corruption is at the level of FIFA corruption.
- disillusioned 13d ago