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Why not migrate your data off? As far as browser stuff goes, it's not that hard of a switch.

by MrDrMcCoy 15d ago

happytoexplain 15d ago
Laziness. Also I swear YouTube runs much worse on FF. But that's secondary.
- folkrav 15d ago
  That second part was indeed pretty self evident years ago, but I regularly watch 4k content on YouTube on low powered machine these days and can't say I see the difference anymore.
  - flir 15d ago
    You might still in a power usage graph.
    - folkrav 15d ago
      Eh, maybe, maybe not. I watch YouTube content, not power usage graphs, perceived performance is good enough for what I do with it. If I'm on battery I'm probably not watching in 4k anyway, at which point the difference in power use should be pretty negligible.
      - flir 15d ago
        Got curious, so I did a very unscientific experiment. Playing 3 1080 music videos in FF pulls about 60W here. In Chrome, about 50W. No videos playing is about 30W. If it's uBlock or 3.33W, I know which I'm choosing.
        folkrav 13d ago
        It's more about "abdicating to the Chromium monopoly" than "uBlock" in my case, in which case that 3.33W isn't so bad for me. YMMV I guess.
  - happytoexplain 15d ago
    I'm not saying it's FF's fault, but it undeniably runs worse on my machine.
- andrew_lettuce 15d ago
  I switched my family off Google after almost 20 years on our own domain. In hindsight it was ridiculously easy, although there are still some weird Google account required links that ultimately have me just moving on. Yt does run worse on FF but that's because of unlock (I believe) they tend to stall out intentionally instead of showing you ads and attempt to get you to switch.
  - happytoexplain 15d ago
    Yeah, I believe the stall-out issue is sabotage, but it also visibly takes longer to just render the page. On FF, a YT page jumps around for almost two whole seconds while it renders for me (not to play the video - to render the page). This may also be sabotage by Google, I don't know.
- culi 15d ago
  YouTube runs worse on FF if you have uBO. They do it on purpose. But if you were to use a clean Firefox install it's pretty comparable. Ofc YT is optimized for Chromium which is another factor

Why not migrate your data off? As far as browser stuff goes, it's not that hard of a switch.

happytoexplain 15d ago

Laziness. Also I swear YouTube runs much worse on FF. But that's secondary.

folkrav 15d ago
That second part was indeed pretty self evident years ago, but I regularly watch 4k content on YouTube on low powered machine these days and can't say I see the difference anymore.
- flir 15d ago
  You might still in a power usage graph.
  - folkrav 15d ago
    Eh, maybe, maybe not. I watch YouTube content, not power usage graphs, perceived performance is good enough for what I do with it. If I'm on battery I'm probably not watching in 4k anyway, at which point the difference in power use should be pretty negligible.
    - flir 15d ago
      Got curious, so I did a very unscientific experiment. Playing 3 1080 music videos in FF pulls about 60W here. In Chrome, about 50W. No videos playing is about 30W. If it's uBlock or 3.33W, I know which I'm choosing.
      - folkrav 13d ago
        It's more about "abdicating to the Chromium monopoly" than "uBlock" in my case, in which case that 3.33W isn't so bad for me. YMMV I guess.
- happytoexplain 15d ago
  I'm not saying it's FF's fault, but it undeniably runs worse on my machine.
andrew_lettuce 15d ago
I switched my family off Google after almost 20 years on our own domain. In hindsight it was ridiculously easy, although there are still some weird Google account required links that ultimately have me just moving on. Yt does run worse on FF but that's because of unlock (I believe) they tend to stall out intentionally instead of showing you ads and attempt to get you to switch.
- happytoexplain 15d ago
  Yeah, I believe the stall-out issue is sabotage, but it also visibly takes longer to just render the page. On FF, a YT page jumps around for almost two whole seconds while it renders for me (not to play the video - to render the page). This may also be sabotage by Google, I don't know.
culi 15d ago
YouTube runs worse on FF if you have uBO. They do it on purpose. But if you were to use a clean Firefox install it's pretty comparable. Ofc YT is optimized for Chromium which is another factor