> You're talking about trips within New York City (Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island are part of New York City) or out of New York City. People of Long Islan

> You're talking about trips within New York City (Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island are part of New York City) or out of New York City. People of Long Island, which is not part of NYC, go to great lengths to avoid tolls to the mainland. You only need a few thousand cars to make a huge impact. That's the congestion that was eliminated. You can, and people do, the same from Westchester north. There is no free route from New Jersey. > This is just objectively not true. https://www.congestion-pricing-tracker.com/ https://www.congestion-pricing-tracker.com/ Compare your data, to what I said, not to what you are upset about. It's still a shitshow, just a shorter wait. The routes used to avoid river tolls from Long Island (Brooklyn, Manhattan, Williamsburg, Queenboro Bridges) dropped. Crosstown traffic dropped. FDR Drive, Battery tunnel, Queens Midtown Tunnel remained the same or marginally dropped.