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I always thought Im just not good enough to understand, hey Im just too dumb, surely there's people out there who understand what differentiates all these apach

I always thought Im just not good enough to understand, hey Im just too dumb, surely there's people out there who understand what differentiates all these apache products! Nope never found one.

kitd 17d ago
Apache is just an umbrella organisation for managing open source software projects. There's nothing that links those projects otherwise.
hofo 17d ago
Differentiation from each other or from competitor projects?
- adolph 17d ago
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theplumber 17d ago
Do you understand the difference between computer devices?
- ramraj07 16d ago
  Do you understand the difference between pulsar and Kafka
otabdeveloper4 17d ago
Don't worry about it, Apache is the hospice where software projects go to die.
- skeeter2020 17d ago
  What a crock of shite. Of course there's going to be some dead one when you have this many, but there are also projects that are foundational and many exciting new ones too: https://projects.apache.org/projects.html https://projects.apache.org/projects.html
  - mrits 16d ago
    I didn't agree with it but still laughed
  - Thaxll 16d ago
    That UI though... is it powered by Java?
- 0x457 16d ago
  There are roughly 400 projects on that page; about 90 are in the attic, meaning formally retired. Another 25 are incubating, and some of those look like they’re already dead; nobody has checked the pulse and filled out the paperwork yet. A huge chunk of Apache is Java libraries. Some projects are just academia doing academia things; they graduate, the original people move on, and the project dies. Others are corporate donations, including the occasional “we don’t want to play with this anymore; maybe Apache can keep it alive” project. That being said, the incubator graduation rate is still roughly 75–80%. How useful or alive those graduates are five or ten years later is a different question. Saying Apache is where software go to die is just wrong.
  - otabdeveloper4 16d ago
    > Saying Apache is where software go to die is just wrong. ...and yet you proceeded to list all the ways that dead projects are being kept undead by Apache? I'm getting conflicting vibes here from your post.
    - 0x457 16d ago
      Yeah, the incubation projects. Do you not understand the difference between an incubation project and a TLP? No conflicting vibes: 80% of projects survive the incubation, become TLP, and live a long life. How is that a hospice? I only listed one way the undead project kept undead - "nobody has checked the pulse and filled out the paperwork yet." That was about _some_ of the 25 projects out of 400 projects. As for academia projects - some of them survive. There is only one category that has a high mortality rate in Apache: government-donated projects.

I always thought Im just not good enough to understand, hey Im just too dumb, surely there's people out there who understand what differentiates all these apache products! Nope never found one.

kitd 17d ago

Apache is just an umbrella organisation for managing open source software projects. There's nothing that links those projects otherwise.

hofo 17d ago

Differentiation from each other or from competitor projects?

adolph 17d ago
[dead]

theplumber 17d ago

Do you understand the difference between computer devices?

ramraj07 16d ago
Do you understand the difference between pulsar and Kafka

otabdeveloper4 17d ago

Don't worry about it, Apache is the hospice where software projects go to die.

skeeter2020 17d ago
What a crock of shite. Of course there's going to be some dead one when you have this many, but there are also projects that are foundational and many exciting new ones too: https://projects.apache.org/projects.html https://projects.apache.org/projects.html
- mrits 16d ago
  I didn't agree with it but still laughed
- Thaxll 16d ago
  That UI though... is it powered by Java?
0x457 16d ago
There are roughly 400 projects on that page; about 90 are in the attic, meaning formally retired. Another 25 are incubating, and some of those look like they’re already dead; nobody has checked the pulse and filled out the paperwork yet. A huge chunk of Apache is Java libraries. Some projects are just academia doing academia things; they graduate, the original people move on, and the project dies. Others are corporate donations, including the occasional “we don’t want to play with this anymore; maybe Apache can keep it alive” project. That being said, the incubator graduation rate is still roughly 75–80%. How useful or alive those graduates are five or ten years later is a different question. Saying Apache is where software go to die is just wrong.
- otabdeveloper4 16d ago
  > Saying Apache is where software go to die is just wrong. ...and yet you proceeded to list all the ways that dead projects are being kept undead by Apache? I'm getting conflicting vibes here from your post.
  - 0x457 16d ago
    Yeah, the incubation projects. Do you not understand the difference between an incubation project and a TLP? No conflicting vibes: 80% of projects survive the incubation, become TLP, and live a long life. How is that a hospice? I only listed one way the undead project kept undead - "nobody has checked the pulse and filled out the paperwork yet." That was about _some_ of the 25 projects out of 400 projects. As for academia projects - some of them survive. There is only one category that has a high mortality rate in Apache: government-donated projects.