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I disagree, I think red meat is healthy in all/most scenarios. What should be taxed is high carb, sweets, ultra processed.

epolanski 16d ago
No, that's your opinion not backed by any science. As I posted you a comprehensive review of carnivore diet literature there's no evidence of any long term benefit, in fact, there's evidence of the contrary. You really sound like somebody who takes advice from Joe Rogan and Tik tok instead of going to a doctor. Continue believing the narratives and data that back your preferences or your anecdotal experience I guess.
- ddorian43 16d ago
  There is no literature on carnivore, it's just people who eat more meat while still eating "normal" food. While carnivore is eating only meat. Your paper just said that you may have issues with blood lipids and stuff, there's no real measurements if those blood levels end up as real issues. Example: > In contrast, a systematic review by Palmer (2025) [12] concluded that the long-term adverse effects of red and processed meat consumption—such as increased risks of type 2 diabetes, cancer, obesity, hypertension, inflammation, and atherosclerosis—clearly outweigh any potential benefits [12]. Putting diabetes & obesity in there is literally insane! One big issue on carnivore or keto is it's very hard to gain weight, because protein & fat are very fulfilling. The whole study is always "eating more meat might do this", and never considering real carnivore where you eat nothing else. And even on cases on carnivore, most of the things were extrapolating from the transitory period (hint: staying 30 years carnivore and transitioning to mediterrean also has issues) Again, it's very hard when you know no details whatsoever. This is a mongodb moment for you my man (going by marketing), but it's ok, you just don't know better, and don't have the tools or time or ability or the necessity! to try anything else.

epolanski 16d ago

No, that's your opinion not backed by any science. As I posted you a comprehensive review of carnivore diet literature there's no evidence of any long term benefit, in fact, there's evidence of the contrary. You really sound like somebody who takes advice from Joe Rogan and Tik tok instead of going to a doctor. Continue believing the narratives and data that back your preferences or your anecdotal experience I guess.

ddorian43 16d ago
There is no literature on carnivore, it's just people who eat more meat while still eating "normal" food. While carnivore is eating only meat. Your paper just said that you may have issues with blood lipids and stuff, there's no real measurements if those blood levels end up as real issues. Example: > In contrast, a systematic review by Palmer (2025) [12] concluded that the long-term adverse effects of red and processed meat consumption—such as increased risks of type 2 diabetes, cancer, obesity, hypertension, inflammation, and atherosclerosis—clearly outweigh any potential benefits [12]. Putting diabetes & obesity in there is literally insane! One big issue on carnivore or keto is it's very hard to gain weight, because protein & fat are very fulfilling. The whole study is always "eating more meat might do this", and never considering real carnivore where you eat nothing else. And even on cases on carnivore, most of the things were extrapolating from the transitory period (hint: staying 30 years carnivore and transitioning to mediterrean also has issues) Again, it's very hard when you know no details whatsoever. This is a mongodb moment for you my man (going by marketing), but it's ok, you just don't know better, and don't have the tools or time or ability or the necessity! to try anything else.