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You feel the same way buddy. We both have no ability to verify what we're saying and just choose who to listen to. At least I eat healthy compared to you (easi

You feel the same way buddy. We both have no ability to verify what we're saying and just choose who to listen to. At least I eat healthy compared to you (easily verifiable when you have a health issue like epilepsy or diabetes).

epolanski 17d ago
I eat very well, mostly a classic mediterranean diet with lots of vegetables, lentils, etc, and I'm very healthy, thanks for the worry.
- ddorian43 17d ago
  Yes, but you're just lucky, or still young, or aren't really measuring, or aren't optimizing. Which is fine. But it's not nice to tax other people's medicine.
  - epolanski 17d ago
    1. There's no evidence that carnivore diet has any long term benefit, as this 2026 article that reviews all of the available literature points out. In fact there's more evidence of the contrary. > The Carnivore Diet may offer short-term health benefits but carries substantial risks of nutrient deficiencies, reduced intake of health-promoting phytochemicals, and the development of cardiovascular disease. At this time, long-term adherence to a CD cannot be recommended. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12845189 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12845189 2. On the contrary, the mediterranean diet is one of the most studied and backed with more evidence behind its long term health benefits. 3. In any case the topic is climate change, which agriculture and cattle are very strongly responsible for as cattle farming produces both lots of greenhouses as well as being very resource intensive. Which is fine. But don't pretend it to be otherwise with your social media diet.
    - ddorian43 17d ago
      It's not social media diet, it was invented to help children with epilepsy. The same diet works in other scenarios (diabetes 1 & 2, bipolar, schizophrenia, adhd are some examples). > https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12845189 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12845189 Again, it's very hard to form correct opinions when you're not in the trenches and just read stuff online. A (complex) example: are bad blood lipids actually bad when you're very fit? This is being researched, might take some years. It's a complex topic, see "lean mass hyper responder" or "The cholesterol code" documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Z8bUb1P94 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Z8bUb1P94 . (this is the cardiovascular angle) > 2. On the contrary, the mediterranean diet is one of the most studied and backed with more evidence behind its long term health benefits. Yet it doesn't work in any of the scenarios I said. It's not a bad diet, but it's a random diet IMO, no thought went into it, or some evolutionary design (I live in a mediterranean country and ate it by default). ps: the mediterranean should work on type 2 diabetes. But what happens if eating even some plain/simple/good carbs/sweets/fruits still triggers your brain so high-carb food remains an addiction in your head? The only solution might be to quit even the "good" carbs, so after some time, you have no triggers/urges for bad food and can live in peace.
      - epolanski 17d ago
        Let's cut the chase: if you have medical conditions for which *a doctor* prescribes you a carnivore diet, referring to the original comment, you can be exempt from the carbon tax.
        ddorian43 16d ago
        I disagree, I think red meat is healthy in all/most scenarios. What should be taxed is high carb, sweets, ultra processed.
        epolanski 16d ago
        No, that's your opinion not backed by any science. As I posted you a comprehensive review of carnivore diet literature there's no evidence of any long term benefit, in fact, there's evidence of the contrary. You really sound like somebody who takes advice from Joe Rogan and Tik tok instead of going to a doctor. Continue believing the narratives and data that back your preferences or your anecdotal experience I guess.

epolanski 17d ago

I eat very well, mostly a classic mediterranean diet with lots of vegetables, lentils, etc, and I'm very healthy, thanks for the worry.

ddorian43 17d ago
Yes, but you're just lucky, or still young, or aren't really measuring, or aren't optimizing. Which is fine. But it's not nice to tax other people's medicine.
- epolanski 17d ago
  1. There's no evidence that carnivore diet has any long term benefit, as this 2026 article that reviews all of the available literature points out. In fact there's more evidence of the contrary. > The Carnivore Diet may offer short-term health benefits but carries substantial risks of nutrient deficiencies, reduced intake of health-promoting phytochemicals, and the development of cardiovascular disease. At this time, long-term adherence to a CD cannot be recommended. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12845189 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12845189 2. On the contrary, the mediterranean diet is one of the most studied and backed with more evidence behind its long term health benefits. 3. In any case the topic is climate change, which agriculture and cattle are very strongly responsible for as cattle farming produces both lots of greenhouses as well as being very resource intensive. Which is fine. But don't pretend it to be otherwise with your social media diet.
  - ddorian43 17d ago
    It's not social media diet, it was invented to help children with epilepsy. The same diet works in other scenarios (diabetes 1 & 2, bipolar, schizophrenia, adhd are some examples). > https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12845189 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12845189 Again, it's very hard to form correct opinions when you're not in the trenches and just read stuff online. A (complex) example: are bad blood lipids actually bad when you're very fit? This is being researched, might take some years. It's a complex topic, see "lean mass hyper responder" or "The cholesterol code" documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Z8bUb1P94 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Z8bUb1P94 . (this is the cardiovascular angle) > 2. On the contrary, the mediterranean diet is one of the most studied and backed with more evidence behind its long term health benefits. Yet it doesn't work in any of the scenarios I said. It's not a bad diet, but it's a random diet IMO, no thought went into it, or some evolutionary design (I live in a mediterranean country and ate it by default). ps: the mediterranean should work on type 2 diabetes. But what happens if eating even some plain/simple/good carbs/sweets/fruits still triggers your brain so high-carb food remains an addiction in your head? The only solution might be to quit even the "good" carbs, so after some time, you have no triggers/urges for bad food and can live in peace.
    - epolanski 17d ago
      Let's cut the chase: if you have medical conditions for which *a doctor* prescribes you a carnivore diet, referring to the original comment, you can be exempt from the carbon tax.
      - ddorian43 16d ago
        I disagree, I think red meat is healthy in all/most scenarios. What should be taxed is high carb, sweets, ultra processed.
        epolanski 16d ago
        No, that's your opinion not backed by any science. As I posted you a comprehensive review of carnivore diet literature there's no evidence of any long term benefit, in fact, there's evidence of the contrary. You really sound like somebody who takes advice from Joe Rogan and Tik tok instead of going to a doctor. Continue believing the narratives and data that back your preferences or your anecdotal experience I guess.