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Hm, which is worse: An entire country of millions of people suffers from the shortsighted actions of a few with reduced quality of products, increased prices, w
by danaris 17d ago
Hm, which is worse: An entire country of millions of people suffers from the shortsighted actions of a few with reduced quality of products, increased prices, worse access to other countries, and a host of other problems...
...or we have to listen to some people whine?
- FartyMcFarter 17d agoThat's a good point, but sometimes it's a good thing for people to see the consequences of their (and others') choices. Perhaps it could have some good medium / long-term effects.
- whateverboat 17d ago> Hm, which is worse: An entire country of millions of people suffers from the shortsighted actions of a few Few? 51% is a few? I mean, I also think Brexit was a monumentally stupid decision, but 51% of people wanted it, no? Even assuming that everyone who didn't vote would have voted for remain, given the voter turnout of 71% (which is already very high for any election, typical turnout is around 57%), 35% of people said yes. That's not a few, that a big chunk.
- HPsquared 17d agoWhat if 51% weakly want something and 49% strongly want the opposite?
- 1718627440 17d agoStrongly enough to vote for it.
- ipaddr 17d agoIf 51% of the population weakly wanted something they would lose the vote because most wouldn't bother voting. Didn't happen here.
- danaris 17d agoThe "few" I'm talking about are the politicians who pushed for the referendum, and the politicians and media execs that cheerfully portrayed it as if Brexit was going to cause Europe to give the UK everything it wanted with zero drawbacks or tradeoffs, as if they were still the Mighty And Unchallengeable British Empire. And in any case, the point of my post was the "suffering", not the "few".
- multjoy 17d agoThe biggest issue is that at the time of the vote, nobody had any idea of what Brexit actually meant. The leave campaign could literally promise anything and a) they wouldn’t have to deliver it and b) everyone who voted for Brexit can reasonably suggest that they voted for something other than what was actually delivered. The best you can say about the Brexit vote is that 51% wanted something other than the status quo.
- tonyedgecombe 17d agoThe winners are still whining anyway.
- teamonkey 17d agoMore like “we won, don’t mention it” It was recently the 10-year anniversary of the Brexit vote. Not a single firework.