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I feel so seen right now. My partner complains about me closing apps on my phone consistently. I also have to hold myself back from defragging and continually c

I feel so seen right now. My partner complains about me closing apps on my phone consistently. I also have to hold myself back from defragging and continually cleaning up my storage drives. I too am nearly certain that the positive benefits are approaching nil, but I still feel it should be helpful.

prmoustache 18d ago
> My partner complains about me closing apps on my phone consistently. I'd be curious to know the reqson why she would care on her own phone and why it would be an issue on someone else's phone?
- snailmailman 18d ago
  At least on iPhone, it basically doesn't do anything. Apple aggressively kills all background apps automatically. the "open" apps in the switcher are almost always just screenshots of previously-open-but-now-closed apps. if it was recent, the latest app or two in the switcher might actually be open, but rarely more than that. Despite this, many of my relatives have somehow learned this habit of opening the switcher and closing all apps when they are done with them.
  - charcircuit 18d ago
    iOS has never worked the way you are describing. It's easy to disprove your claim that the app is killed by just switching between different apps you have open. iOS keeps the apps open to make it fast to switch back to them.
    - snailmailman 18d ago
      Well, it closes the apps somewhat arbitrarily, but they definitely arent all open. If the most recent app is a resource-intensive game or something it will more aggressively close things. but you can have more open if they are all lightweight apps. But the switcher shows every app ever opened and tries to pretend these apps aren't being closed. Right now for instance, i just checked and as best i can tell, the last 3 were open. going back any further and i could tell the app had to reload. but i can scroll to the left back forever. the one on the furthest left i easily haven't opened for months
      - gregglain 18d ago
        I do this also - but wonder because I'll have some app open, phone gets warm. Close the app and it cools down.
      - charcircuit 18d ago
        Being able to go back 3 already contradicts the claim that it was rare to be more than 2. It works the same as Android. Android kills apps based off of resource usage but keeps screenshots of them in the task switcher.
    - akdev1l 18d ago
      This is literally always how iOS has worked. You can refer to the application lifecycle documentation: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/managing-your-app-s-life-cycle https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/managing-you...
      - charcircuit 18d ago
        What point are you trying to make. The documentation doesn't say the OS only keeps a single app process running at a time.
        akdev1l 15d ago
        The document is clear that the expectation from the developer is that you need to be ready for your app to be snapshotted and frozen/killed at any moment when it is not on the foreground.
      - Plont 17d ago
        The page you linked to doesn't say that anywhere.
  - ButlerianJihad 18d ago
    Android has always been quite vigilant and is prompt to kill off any app at the MFA login screen while I am consulting the Oracle of Authenticator in another task. Thanks Android! That being said, I dislike having 3 dozen apps open because I simply can’t quickly find and switch to the ones I’m using. So when I enter a new situation, I swipe all the way left, and Clear All apps, to start over with a tabula rasa.
    - netsharc 18d ago
      The app I use is gone from the app store, but like Spotlight or the Windows Start Menu > type-to-search (before it got utterly shittified with web search/does it have AI now?), I have an Android app called App Search+ on the bottom left of my Android home screen. Open it, and it opens a list of recently searched for apps. The focus is on the top search bar (and the keyboard has also popped up), and I can type to find any app I have installed.
  - laweijfmvo 18d ago
    i’m convinced the real reason people do this is because they don’t want anyone to see what apps they were using.
  - 1718627440 15d ago
    If you just have every app in the switcher, it becomes useless too.
Brian_K_White 18d ago
When you die, you will leave behind nice orderly contiguous files. It's thoughtful. hehe
- throwaway17_17 18d ago
  After digging through a recently passed relative’s hard drive (the computer barely functioned so I pulled it) and having to search through years of garbage that where never deleted to find the photos, Word documents, and WordPerfect documents my aunt ‘knew’ where stored there somewhere, this is not an insignificant gift to leave my family with.
DANmode 18d ago
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- throwaway17_17 17d ago
  I know it’s a late reply, but the answer is absolutely both of us are exceptionally neurotic. But in completely different ways.
  - DANmode 17d ago
    Never too late! =]

prmoustache 18d ago

> My partner complains about me closing apps on my phone consistently. I'd be curious to know the reqson why she would care on her own phone and why it would be an issue on someone else's phone?

snailmailman 18d ago
At least on iPhone, it basically doesn't do anything. Apple aggressively kills all background apps automatically. the "open" apps in the switcher are almost always just screenshots of previously-open-but-now-closed apps. if it was recent, the latest app or two in the switcher might actually be open, but rarely more than that. Despite this, many of my relatives have somehow learned this habit of opening the switcher and closing all apps when they are done with them.
- charcircuit 18d ago
  iOS has never worked the way you are describing. It's easy to disprove your claim that the app is killed by just switching between different apps you have open. iOS keeps the apps open to make it fast to switch back to them.
  - snailmailman 18d ago
    Well, it closes the apps somewhat arbitrarily, but they definitely arent all open. If the most recent app is a resource-intensive game or something it will more aggressively close things. but you can have more open if they are all lightweight apps. But the switcher shows every app ever opened and tries to pretend these apps aren't being closed. Right now for instance, i just checked and as best i can tell, the last 3 were open. going back any further and i could tell the app had to reload. but i can scroll to the left back forever. the one on the furthest left i easily haven't opened for months
    - gregglain 18d ago
      I do this also - but wonder because I'll have some app open, phone gets warm. Close the app and it cools down.
    - charcircuit 18d ago
      Being able to go back 3 already contradicts the claim that it was rare to be more than 2. It works the same as Android. Android kills apps based off of resource usage but keeps screenshots of them in the task switcher.
  - akdev1l 18d ago
    This is literally always how iOS has worked. You can refer to the application lifecycle documentation: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/managing-your-app-s-life-cycle https://developer.apple.com/documentation/uikit/managing-you...
    - charcircuit 18d ago
      What point are you trying to make. The documentation doesn't say the OS only keeps a single app process running at a time.
      - akdev1l 15d ago
        The document is clear that the expectation from the developer is that you need to be ready for your app to be snapshotted and frozen/killed at any moment when it is not on the foreground.
    - Plont 17d ago
      The page you linked to doesn't say that anywhere.
- ButlerianJihad 18d ago
  Android has always been quite vigilant and is prompt to kill off any app at the MFA login screen while I am consulting the Oracle of Authenticator in another task. Thanks Android! That being said, I dislike having 3 dozen apps open because I simply can’t quickly find and switch to the ones I’m using. So when I enter a new situation, I swipe all the way left, and Clear All apps, to start over with a tabula rasa.
  - netsharc 18d ago
    The app I use is gone from the app store, but like Spotlight or the Windows Start Menu > type-to-search (before it got utterly shittified with web search/does it have AI now?), I have an Android app called App Search+ on the bottom left of my Android home screen. Open it, and it opens a list of recently searched for apps. The focus is on the top search bar (and the keyboard has also popped up), and I can type to find any app I have installed.
- laweijfmvo 18d ago
  i’m convinced the real reason people do this is because they don’t want anyone to see what apps they were using.
- 1718627440 15d ago
  If you just have every app in the switcher, it becomes useless too.

Brian_K_White 18d ago

When you die, you will leave behind nice orderly contiguous files. It's thoughtful. hehe

throwaway17_17 18d ago
After digging through a recently passed relative’s hard drive (the computer barely functioned so I pulled it) and having to search through years of garbage that where never deleted to find the photos, Word documents, and WordPerfect documents my aunt ‘knew’ where stored there somewhere, this is not an insignificant gift to leave my family with.

DANmode 18d ago

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throwaway17_17 17d ago
I know it’s a late reply, but the answer is absolutely both of us are exceptionally neurotic. But in completely different ways.
- DANmode 17d ago
  Never too late! =]