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> These antisemitic conspiracy theories predate Israel being a country. Swapping out Jews for Israeli Jews or Jews that support the existence of Israel in state

> These antisemitic conspiracy theories predate Israel being a country. Swapping out Jews for Israeli Jews or Jews that support the existence of Israel in statements doesn't negate the statement being fundamentally rooted in an antisemitic conspiracy theory. Which part of the above quote is a conspiracy theory? There do in fact exist jews which consider themselves the chosen people, and who want to dominate Palestine Lebanon Iran Syria etc, and who consider themselves superior to others (e.g. saying Palestinians aren't even people), including many in israel's current government. Indeed, many of their words and actions are evidence for an ongoing international case against israel for genocide. I guess there's a globe-wide conspiracy theory against israel for doing nothing wrong? Given that proper context, the quote reads to me as defending jews like me against the condemnation that israel regularly rightly receives for its behavior. Also, please stop doing this: > Swapping out Jews for Israeli Jews or Jews that support the existence of Israel in statements When you take a criticism of the behavior of a limited group of people, and try to extrapolate it to all jews based on their identity, you are propagating a common antisemetic trope, and engaging in collective blame spreading, which is hurtful. Jewish people have agency, we don't just do whatever israel tells us to do.

jameshilliard 17d ago
> Which part of the above quote is a conspiracy theory? The quote as a whole. > There do in fact exist jews which consider themselves the chosen people, and who want to dominate Palestine Lebanon Iran Syria etc, and who consider themselves superior to others (e.g. saying Palestinians aren't even people), including many in israel's current government. She's painting Jews/Israeli Jews with a very broad antisemitic brush in the quote. I would agree Israel like most countries has extremists, but she doesn't appear to be talking about just them. > Indeed, many of their words and actions are evidence for an ongoing international case against israel for genocide. I guess there's a globe-wide conspiracy theory against israel for doing nothing wrong? The reason the world has double standards when it comes to Israel is largely rooted in antisemitism, and it's certainly a big problem in many countries in the world. It's especially a problem in the middle east. > Given that proper context, the quote reads to me as defending jews like me against the condemnation that israel regularly rightly receives for its behavior. The way the quote is worded I don't consider that to be a reasonable interpretation. > When you take a criticism of the behavior of a limited group of people, and try to extrapolate it to all jews based on their identity, you are propagating a common antisemetic trope, and engaging in collective blame spreading, which is hurtful. Jewish people have agency, we don't just do whatever israel tells us to do. She's the one extrapolating and applying the antisemitic world domination trope. She's making it out as if most/many Jews are involved in world domination.

jameshilliard 17d ago

> Which part of the above quote is a conspiracy theory? The quote as a whole. > There do in fact exist jews which consider themselves the chosen people, and who want to dominate Palestine Lebanon Iran Syria etc, and who consider themselves superior to others (e.g. saying Palestinians aren't even people), including many in israel's current government. She's painting Jews/Israeli Jews with a very broad antisemitic brush in the quote. I would agree Israel like most countries has extremists, but she doesn't appear to be talking about just them. > Indeed, many of their words and actions are evidence for an ongoing international case against israel for genocide. I guess there's a globe-wide conspiracy theory against israel for doing nothing wrong? The reason the world has double standards when it comes to Israel is largely rooted in antisemitism, and it's certainly a big problem in many countries in the world. It's especially a problem in the middle east. > Given that proper context, the quote reads to me as defending jews like me against the condemnation that israel regularly rightly receives for its behavior. The way the quote is worded I don't consider that to be a reasonable interpretation. > When you take a criticism of the behavior of a limited group of people, and try to extrapolate it to all jews based on their identity, you are propagating a common antisemetic trope, and engaging in collective blame spreading, which is hurtful. Jewish people have agency, we don't just do whatever israel tells us to do. She's the one extrapolating and applying the antisemitic world domination trope. She's making it out as if most/many Jews are involved in world domination.