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I think when people are complaining about Captcha they're complaining about yet another "pick 6-20 pictures of traffic lights/school busses/stairs/stop signs/bi

I think when people are complaining about Captcha they're complaining about yet another "pick 6-20 pictures of traffic lights/school busses/stairs/stop signs/bicycles."

mapontosevenths 20d ago
If they want to train an AI they should pay for it like everyone else. Modern bots have zero problems solving these, it's just free training for them.
- da_chicken 20d ago
  > If they want to train an AI they should pay for it like everyone else. They're paying for electricity and taking data without paying for it. It seems to me that they're paying for it exactly the same way everyone else in AI did.
- Scoundreller 19d ago
  Does the bot include the rider when identifying bicycles? When is an ebike a motorcycle/no longer a bicycle? The support structure for a traffic light or just the coloured light bits?
inventor7777 20d ago
Not in this case. I wish I could find the actual post, but I recall reading a post on HN recently where a majority of the commenters were claiming that when they even see a Cloudflare verification checkbox that they leave the website. This makes no sense to me as in my experience, you click the checkbox and then it verifies you without extra steps.
- Izkata 20d ago
  Usually but not always. The challenge is after clicking the checkbox, if it can't manage to verify automatically. So those users have learned not to bother.
- anal_reactor 20d ago
  On my favorite browser (Opera Mobile with desktop mode) Cloudflare verification never works. It just says "failed, please try again" forever.
- miki123211 20d ago
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  - xxs 20d ago
    the standard for user agents behavior tends to be described in certain RFCs
- encody 19d ago
  For me it's very strange: I'd say about 7 times out of 10 it loads the checkbox for five to ten seconds, then I check it, then it loads for another five to ten seconds, refreshes the page, shows me a second checkbox, we go through the whole song and dance again, and then it lets me in.

I think when people are complaining about Captcha they're complaining about yet another "pick 6-20 pictures of traffic lights/school busses/stairs/stop signs/bicycles."

mapontosevenths 20d ago

If they want to train an AI they should pay for it like everyone else. Modern bots have zero problems solving these, it's just free training for them.

da_chicken 20d ago
> If they want to train an AI they should pay for it like everyone else. They're paying for electricity and taking data without paying for it. It seems to me that they're paying for it exactly the same way everyone else in AI did.
Scoundreller 19d ago
Does the bot include the rider when identifying bicycles? When is an ebike a motorcycle/no longer a bicycle? The support structure for a traffic light or just the coloured light bits?

inventor7777 20d ago

Not in this case. I wish I could find the actual post, but I recall reading a post on HN recently where a majority of the commenters were claiming that when they even see a Cloudflare verification checkbox that they leave the website. This makes no sense to me as in my experience, you click the checkbox and then it verifies you without extra steps.

Izkata 20d ago
Usually but not always. The challenge is after clicking the checkbox, if it can't manage to verify automatically. So those users have learned not to bother.
anal_reactor 20d ago
On my favorite browser (Opera Mobile with desktop mode) Cloudflare verification never works. It just says "failed, please try again" forever.
miki123211 20d ago
[flagged]
- xxs 20d ago
  the standard for user agents behavior tends to be described in certain RFCs
encody 19d ago
For me it's very strange: I'd say about 7 times out of 10 it loads the checkbox for five to ten seconds, then I check it, then it loads for another five to ten seconds, refreshes the page, shows me a second checkbox, we go through the whole song and dance again, and then it lets me in.