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> other than that all I really need is a web browser and Ghostty with good battery life. Then why bother installing a different OS?

msto 21d ago
There might be no reason while the hardware is latest and greatest, but installing a different OS can keep old hardware going for longer. My 2014 Macbook Pro is uncomfortably slow on the last supported MacOS but works perfectly fine when running the latest Fedora.
- JLO64 21d ago
  This exactly sums up my long term feelings. Even now I’m annoyed by all the background bloat/tasks that are running on it, and I’d prefer being able to have more control over what runs on it for battery/performance reasons. Additionally, even though I’ve had it for years at this point, I think I’d still be more comfortable if I could use i3 with it.
  - astrange 21d ago
    Background processes almost never really use expensive resources on macOS or Linux. Certainly they can cause symptoms sometimes, but it's typically no worse than extra fan noise. All the wasted resources on most people's machines are going to a) pixel buffers b) browser tabs c) both.
    - Obscurity4340 20d ago
      Almost never. But still sometimes Also computers should run and not run what you choose. Apple should not be able to for e you to run "services" (for themselves) and apps you cant delete
      - astrange 20d ago
        You can't turn off random parts of a system someone else made. You don't know what they do. https://limi.net/checkboxes https://limi.net/checkboxes
        Obscurity4340 11d ago
        Why does MacOS "require" AppleTV (even monopolizing the folder name TV in your official Movies folder, or Stocks, or News, or FindMy, or any of the other stock apps that are protected by SIP?
- wltr 21d ago
  And mine is as fast as I need, with Sway as my main DE. (With Arch Linux, but I bet Fedora wouldn’t be any worse.) The only reason to switch to M{1,2,3} is battery life. So, as soon as the external Thunderbolt display is going to work, I think I’m making the switch.
flaburgan 21d ago
Or why bother buying an expensive machine in the first place...
- JLO64 21d ago
  I actually didn’t buy it! It was a gift from a friend who really likes splurging at Micro Center. If it were my money, I probably would’ve gotten an Air.
  - tjoff 21d ago
    Supporting the most closed option is worth it because...? The hardware is not even that good. Sure, the CPUs are nice but nice enough to actively support the most closed up system? Not by a longshot.
MBCook 21d ago
Preference? You can dual boot Asahi when the time comes.

msto 21d ago

There might be no reason while the hardware is latest and greatest, but installing a different OS can keep old hardware going for longer. My 2014 Macbook Pro is uncomfortably slow on the last supported MacOS but works perfectly fine when running the latest Fedora.

JLO64 21d ago
This exactly sums up my long term feelings. Even now I’m annoyed by all the background bloat/tasks that are running on it, and I’d prefer being able to have more control over what runs on it for battery/performance reasons. Additionally, even though I’ve had it for years at this point, I think I’d still be more comfortable if I could use i3 with it.
- astrange 21d ago
  Background processes almost never really use expensive resources on macOS or Linux. Certainly they can cause symptoms sometimes, but it's typically no worse than extra fan noise. All the wasted resources on most people's machines are going to a) pixel buffers b) browser tabs c) both.
  - Obscurity4340 20d ago
    Almost never. But still sometimes Also computers should run and not run what you choose. Apple should not be able to for e you to run "services" (for themselves) and apps you cant delete
    - astrange 20d ago
      You can't turn off random parts of a system someone else made. You don't know what they do. https://limi.net/checkboxes https://limi.net/checkboxes
      - Obscurity4340 11d ago
        Why does MacOS "require" AppleTV (even monopolizing the folder name TV in your official Movies folder, or Stocks, or News, or FindMy, or any of the other stock apps that are protected by SIP?
wltr 21d ago
And mine is as fast as I need, with Sway as my main DE. (With Arch Linux, but I bet Fedora wouldn’t be any worse.) The only reason to switch to M{1,2,3} is battery life. So, as soon as the external Thunderbolt display is going to work, I think I’m making the switch.

flaburgan 21d ago

Or why bother buying an expensive machine in the first place...

JLO64 21d ago
I actually didn’t buy it! It was a gift from a friend who really likes splurging at Micro Center. If it were my money, I probably would’ve gotten an Air.
- tjoff 21d ago
  Supporting the most closed option is worth it because...? The hardware is not even that good. Sure, the CPUs are nice but nice enough to actively support the most closed up system? Not by a longshot.

MBCook 21d ago

Preference? You can dual boot Asahi when the time comes.