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You missed the whole game-ification, enshitification, copilot-ification of github, and open source theft for their AI training episodes Always like that with M
by WhereIsTheTruth 21d ago
You missed the whole game-ification, enshitification, copilot-ification of github, and open source theft for their AI training episodes
Always like that with Microsoft apologists
- allyant 21d agoOh yes I can totally believe they use public and private repos for their model training. It is surprising they aren’t ahead of the curve for AI coding like Claude code, codex or cursor because of this.
- psma_egeliaa 21d agoI very much doubt that. Imagine the PR nightmare and potential liability if someone managed to extract from the model credentials in a private repository.
- knocte 21d agoNot a fan of defending GitHub, but TBH them launching GithubActions made me abandon all other CI platforms I was using in the past, I even left GitLab just for that.
- shric 21d agoWhat sold you on GitHub Actions? The one 9 of reliability? https://www.githubstatus.com/ https://www.githubstatus.com/
- SideQuark 21d agoNot sure what you’re intending to show. That page shows 99.5%+ uptime across all 11 of the services provided. To do that at a small company world cost significant money. To have it integrated and cheap for all those small shops is very valuable to them.
- r_lee 21d ago99.5% uptime is nothing significant...
- newswasboring 21d agoYeah but it's sufficient for the largest part of CI needs. Most people are making CRUD apps, 6 9s reliability is not required there.
- r_lee 21d agonot really, I've ran into Github Action downtime and you can't run tests or anything so either you wait or you just let stuff merge and again don't know how this is acceptable in 2026, for a paid CI service and I'm not talking about 6 9s, I mean, 99.5% is terrible
- newswasboring 20d agoA 99.5 means over one year you will need to wait about 40 hours total for the issue to be solved. What kind of high pressure crud app are you making where this is a problem?
- r_lee 20d agowe have technology, 99.5% is embarrassing for a company like Microsoft it's 2026, not 2016 and that 40 hr may be that over 40 days you just have to randomly stop working if you depend on GHA for something and why are other services not struggling like this?
- knocte 20d agoI never said I paid, I was referring to my opensource repos.
- shric 20d agoIt shows 98.3% for actions for me https://ibb.co/PsMkpJFY https://ibb.co/PsMkpJFY
- lynx97 21d agoExplain to me how using OPEN source for training is theft? I've (admittedly skimmed) quite a few licenses, but I really dont remember anyone restricting reading/indexing source code?
- richrichardsson 21d agoYou don't relinquish copyright by using a FOSS license though, right?
- nycdotnet 21d agoMIT license includes: The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software. The argument is that AI models trained on open source should include the copyright info for all projects blended into the weights. And since they don’t, it violates the terms of the license.
- Dylan16807 21d agoGithub hasn't changed that much overall. The copilot service and the training on open source would be the same if Microsoft hadn't bought GitHub, it would just be branded differently.
- cyanydeez 21d agoHave you seen github outages?
- Dylan16807 20d agoWell a lot of the outages are copilot which doesn't change my argument that already holds copilot separate.