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It’s a really strong UX that’s rapidly improving without a profit motive and people are excited about it. Closest thing to the “it just works” experience that

It’s a really strong UX that’s rapidly improving without a profit motive and people are excited about it. Closest thing to the “it just works” experience that Mac was always known for and it runs great on older hardware. Even goes so far as to optimize the install time down to about 1 minute. I was running i3 when an Ubuntu update borked my entire setup so I made the switch. The difference is night and day in the level of polish. Small example, running Zoom on i3 caused a tile cascade every time I turned on my Bluetooth headset because Zoom bypassed the main notification system. Issue resolved here. One of many little quirks that no longer happen. It’s nice to see excitement around Linux because nothing from the big names was really creating it.

mdotmertens 22d ago
I ran it daily like up to 4 months ago. Updates would regularly break hyprland and most games I wanted to play needed much more tinkering than on vanilla arch with the same dependencies installed.
- brightball 22d ago
  I haven’t tried installing games on Linux in years, so that’s a gap for my experience.
  - qup 22d ago
    Mostly you install steam, install game from inside steam, and it just works with nothing further. A far cry from 15 years ago.
- hokumguru 22d ago
  I've run it since launch without issue. That is: to each their own really
  - gilrain 22d ago
    Not really: as far as we know, you use it for nothing; the person you replied to gave examples.
embedding-shape 22d ago
> without a profit motive First time huh? They already have investors (called "patrons" so far). OpenAI shown the non-profit status can be used to jump start for-profit ventures, I'm sure everyone involved here studied closely exactly how Altman pulled it off.
rfgplk 22d ago
> Closest thing to the “it just works” experience that Mac was always known for and it runs great on older hardware. Even goes so far as to optimize the install time down to about 1 minute. He would have had better success by literally prompting his agents to copy Apples desktop environment.
MSFT_Edging 22d ago
Are all the updates still handled by clobbering bash scripts? Last time I looked into it, the technical approach was equivalent to throwing a bunch of things at a gas fire. It's just a pre-configured arch install that introduces a metric ton of tech debt. It's a slop-linux with a racism-linux hat on.
Aurornis 22d ago
> Closest thing to the “it just works” experience that Mac was always known for I see this repeated a lot, but the people I know who tried Omarchy were always fixing something or dealing with breakage from an update. The best argument I’ve heard for Omarchy that is actually consistent with what I’ve observed is that it ships with cool looking default configs for everything that make it feel fun to use. The belief that everything just works seems more like a belief perpetuated by the messaging push behind it. Every time real issues pop up they get explained away as being due to someone’s local config changes or forgiven because it’s a young project. Even in this thread there are dozens of comments downplaying security issues as not a problem because they will get fixed, which is a symptom of a project where the messaging has gotten ahead of the facts.
- 6P58r3MXJSLi 22d ago
  > always fixing something or dealing with breakage from an update. literally the experience that Mac was always known for
  - rbanffy 22d ago
    TBH, MacOS 8 and 9 were not that well regarded.
- CuriouslyC 22d ago
  The main case for Omarchy to me is the OOTB experience, which is more "good to go" than pretty much any other distro, also the hotkeys and config setup are both power user friendly. You are correct that updates have had brick-risk, though I think they've gotten better. I prefer some elements of plasma to the hyprland setup, but agents are very good at making config changes, it's much faster than navigating menus or finding lines in a config file (human work time, maybe not wall clock time).
  - timbits98 22d ago
    Hmm ... but take any mainstream desktop Linux. Let's say Ubuntu or one of its official flavors, or Linux Mint. What about them is less 'good to go'?
troupo 22d ago
> It’s a really strong UX that’s rapidly improving without a profit motive and people are excited about it. /r/unixporn is all about that. They don't get a $10 million fund though. > Closest thing to the “it just works” experience that Mac was always known for and it runs great on older hardware. Ubuntu. Debian. Fedora especiall via Bazzite. Arch via CachyOS. > Small example, running Zoom on i3 caused a tile cascade every time I turned on my Bluetooth Small example: many Steam games were dog slow or unplayable in Omarchy. I switched to CachyOS, all issues were gone. > It’s nice to see excitement around Linux because nothing from the big names was really creating it. None of the big names are creating anything in Omarchy. It's a bunch of vibe-coded dotfiles and shell scripts. It's hype around ricing.
krautburglar 22d ago
Comparing Wayland anything to OSX-like "it just works" is bizzaro-world-tier delusion.
thesuitonym 22d ago
Without a profit motive huh? Let's examine that... From Omarchy's website: "Incubated at 37signals (makers of Basecamp and HEY)." For those unfamiliar with 37signals, here's their take on the profit motive: > 04. Profit motive > > The tech industry is especially good at losing money. Growth is electric, but profits are elusive. We take an old school, economics 101 approach: Make more than you spend. That’s why we’ve been profitable every year we’ve been in business. It’s the responsible way to be reliable and take care of customers over the long haul. Oof, they explicitly say they want the opposite of what you claim. I mean it should be pretty obvious, when an open source project kind of comes out of nowhere like this and suddenly everybody's talking about it, it's not organic growth. It's an incredibly transparent marketing campaign designed to trick people into joining the cargo cult. You need to learn to recognize these things.

mdotmertens 22d ago

I ran it daily like up to 4 months ago. Updates would regularly break hyprland and most games I wanted to play needed much more tinkering than on vanilla arch with the same dependencies installed.

brightball 22d ago
I haven’t tried installing games on Linux in years, so that’s a gap for my experience.
- qup 22d ago
  Mostly you install steam, install game from inside steam, and it just works with nothing further. A far cry from 15 years ago.
hokumguru 22d ago
I've run it since launch without issue. That is: to each their own really
- gilrain 22d ago
  Not really: as far as we know, you use it for nothing; the person you replied to gave examples.

embedding-shape 22d ago

> without a profit motive First time huh? They already have investors (called "patrons" so far). OpenAI shown the non-profit status can be used to jump start for-profit ventures, I'm sure everyone involved here studied closely exactly how Altman pulled it off.

rfgplk 22d ago

> Closest thing to the “it just works” experience that Mac was always known for and it runs great on older hardware. Even goes so far as to optimize the install time down to about 1 minute. He would have had better success by literally prompting his agents to copy Apples desktop environment.

MSFT_Edging 22d ago

Are all the updates still handled by clobbering bash scripts? Last time I looked into it, the technical approach was equivalent to throwing a bunch of things at a gas fire. It's just a pre-configured arch install that introduces a metric ton of tech debt. It's a slop-linux with a racism-linux hat on.

Aurornis 22d ago

> Closest thing to the “it just works” experience that Mac was always known for I see this repeated a lot, but the people I know who tried Omarchy were always fixing something or dealing with breakage from an update. The best argument I’ve heard for Omarchy that is actually consistent with what I’ve observed is that it ships with cool looking default configs for everything that make it feel fun to use. The belief that everything just works seems more like a belief perpetuated by the messaging push behind it. Every time real issues pop up they get explained away as being due to someone’s local config changes or forgiven because it’s a young project. Even in this thread there are dozens of comments downplaying security issues as not a problem because they will get fixed, which is a symptom of a project where the messaging has gotten ahead of the facts.

6P58r3MXJSLi 22d ago
> always fixing something or dealing with breakage from an update. literally the experience that Mac was always known for
- rbanffy 22d ago
  TBH, MacOS 8 and 9 were not that well regarded.
CuriouslyC 22d ago
The main case for Omarchy to me is the OOTB experience, which is more "good to go" than pretty much any other distro, also the hotkeys and config setup are both power user friendly. You are correct that updates have had brick-risk, though I think they've gotten better. I prefer some elements of plasma to the hyprland setup, but agents are very good at making config changes, it's much faster than navigating menus or finding lines in a config file (human work time, maybe not wall clock time).
- timbits98 22d ago
  Hmm ... but take any mainstream desktop Linux. Let's say Ubuntu or one of its official flavors, or Linux Mint. What about them is less 'good to go'?

troupo 22d ago

> It’s a really strong UX that’s rapidly improving without a profit motive and people are excited about it. /r/unixporn is all about that. They don't get a $10 million fund though. > Closest thing to the “it just works” experience that Mac was always known for and it runs great on older hardware. Ubuntu. Debian. Fedora especiall via Bazzite. Arch via CachyOS. > Small example, running Zoom on i3 caused a tile cascade every time I turned on my Bluetooth Small example: many Steam games were dog slow or unplayable in Omarchy. I switched to CachyOS, all issues were gone. > It’s nice to see excitement around Linux because nothing from the big names was really creating it. None of the big names are creating anything in Omarchy. It's a bunch of vibe-coded dotfiles and shell scripts. It's hype around ricing.

krautburglar 22d ago

Comparing Wayland anything to OSX-like "it just works" is bizzaro-world-tier delusion.

thesuitonym 22d ago

Without a profit motive huh? Let's examine that... From Omarchy's website: "Incubated at 37signals (makers of Basecamp and HEY)." For those unfamiliar with 37signals, here's their take on the profit motive: > 04. Profit motive > > The tech industry is especially good at losing money. Growth is electric, but profits are elusive. We take an old school, economics 101 approach: Make more than you spend. That’s why we’ve been profitable every year we’ve been in business. It’s the responsible way to be reliable and take care of customers over the long haul. Oof, they explicitly say they want the opposite of what you claim. I mean it should be pretty obvious, when an open source project kind of comes out of nowhere like this and suddenly everybody's talking about it, it's not organic growth. It's an incredibly transparent marketing campaign designed to trick people into joining the cargo cult. You need to learn to recognize these things.