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Once upon a time I used Twitter's API to scan for tweets that were talking about a particular Wikipedia page. Doing semantic analysis, I did insert the tweets

by maelito 22d ago

Once upon a time I used Twitter's API to scan for tweets that were talking about a particular Wikipedia page. Doing semantic analysis, I did insert the tweets in the right place of the page. I did it as a student, using the free API. Twitter was the open, technically respected network with a great engineering blog. Now it's a political project to elect the extreme-right in Europe.

ecshafer 21d ago
As opposed to the Jack Dorsey days of twitter where you would be banned for mildly right wing opinions, even if they were factually correct. That wasn't a political project?
earth-tattoo 22d ago
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- deleted 22d ago
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- dschu 22d ago
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  - enaaem 22d ago
    Slippery slope into gulags.
  - artisinal 22d ago
    I’m curious about the original comment now
    - thrance 22d ago
      You can enable "showdead" in the settings to see the content of such comments. But beware, there's some truly heinous stuff sometimes.
      - bewareofscams 22d ago
        "heinous" as in criticizing ruling class and especially Israel.
        thrance 22d ago
        No, I meant "heinous" as in "actual nazis and hate speech".
        dschu 21d ago
        My post was clearly not against any platform rules. Yet it was flagged as such.
      - datsci_est_2015 22d ago
        The truly heinous stuff is usually green users, at least.
  - wyclif 22d ago
    The correct answer is, "Of course he did not; free expression and free speech only exist for people who subscribe to doublethink. All other opinions are thoughtcrime."
throw0101a 22d ago
> Once upon a time I used Twitter's API Once upon a time Twitter used to have RSS/Atom feeds for each account. * https://www.seroundtable.com/twitter-rss-depreciated-16973.html https://www.seroundtable.com/twitter-rss-depreciated-16973.h...
dansquizsoft 22d ago
Just Europe?
- inigyou 22d ago
  At the moment.
- datsci_est_2015 22d ago
  Already succeeded in the US. Now it’s a project of whether it can be used to maintain power. Right wing populist movements ebb and flow quite readily: - ebb: people realize that promises of change are empty and only enrich the few elite - flow: people have forgotten that the promises were empty last time Hopefully I’m correctly sensing the shifting of the winds. Meta platforms are more responsible for atrocities in other parts of the world, e.g. Myanmar.
roryirvine 22d ago
"The world's town square", where everyone could gather and see what was going on. And, for more than a decade, it appeared to work pretty well. Governments, media outlets, public-facing services of all kinds came to rely on it as their main way to talk to the public. But now it's impossible to use without a login, most of that value has been lost. The best thing to do is to learn from what happened, and not allow a proprietary platform to become so central again.
- swed420 22d ago
  > The best thing to do is to learn from what happened, and not allow a proprietary platform to become so central again. In the spirit of that, here's some brainstorming: https://www.noemamag.com/the-last-days-of-social-media/ https://www.noemamag.com/the-last-days-of-social-media/
- MattDaEskimo 22d ago
  Never had an X account, never will. Now I'm completely locked out of police reports & municipal updates in my area because it's the only platform they post on.
  - EgregiousCube 21d ago
    You say completely locked out, but be fair, that's a choice you're making. I don't particularly like Facebook but there are a few things I can only keep up with there, so I have a minimal account for that purpose.
    - MattDaEskimo 21d ago
      In what world should a citizen be required to provide their details to a foreign, for-profit company in order to view the updates provided by their government?
    - andrekandre 21d ago
      you shouldn't have to join a private group to get public information though; i think that is the op's point
parineum 22d ago
> Now it's a political project to elect the extreme-right in Europe. Certainly the policy of the opposition has nothing to do with the backlash. No definitely not. It's certainly just dumb people being tricked by the bad guys. If these people could just get properly educated and shielded from the bad ideas surely they'd see the light.
- jabron 22d ago
  There's a reason the owning class is almost always pushing the same kind of narrative, and the reason is that it's serving them, not people at large.
- ragnese 21d ago
  So you're saying that the current management of Twitter does not favor politically-right messaging? Otherwise, your message is a non-sequitur. The comment you replied to made no statement about the effectiveness of the project. It's like saying that George Soros is engaged in trying to elect left-wing leadership; nobody denies that.
  - parineum 21d ago
    I'm saying the right wing push and it's attractiveness doesn't come from the top down. Media is a bottom up industry, successful media is the media people want to consume. If right wing media is popular, it's because right wing messages are popular. Acting like the media are the tastemakers is a convenient way for people to avoid looking in the mirror and doing any kind of self reflection. The right wing is making a push in Europe because Elon Musk has a trillion dollars, not because the parties in power have done anything wrong. Their ideas are only unpopular because the bad man is lying to them. If it wasn't for all this fake news, everyone would see that I am obviously correct and we'd have 100% support. X and it's right wing lean isn't the problem. People are attracted to right wing politics because they don't like what they currently have. The problems isn't that an alternative exists, the problem is the people don't like them.
pedropaulovc 22d ago
Reminder that the Bluesky firehose is open even for unauthenticated users: https://artifacts.vza.net/emojihose/ https://artifacts.vza.net/emojihose/
kopirgan 21d ago
Has always been a political project only the politics changed. API access etc are business issues. Can't mix them up.
zdragnar 21d ago
The free API was closed off well before Twitter ownership changed hands. Even the paid API became untenable for many early users well beforehand. The writing was on the wall for Twitter well before musk got involved, sadly.
RedCinnabar 21d ago
> Now it's a political project to elect the extreme-right in Europe. You people are completely out of touch with reality. You cannot accept that the reason of why we’re voting for the “far” right is because we experienced a whole decade of uncontrolled immigration policies that permanently reshaped the way of living of previously homogeneous countries.

by maelito 22d ago

ecshafer 21d ago

As opposed to the Jack Dorsey days of twitter where you would be banned for mildly right wing opinions, even if they were factually correct. That wasn't a political project?

earth-tattoo 22d ago

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deleted 22d ago
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dschu 22d ago
[flagged]
- enaaem 22d ago
  Slippery slope into gulags.
- artisinal 22d ago
  I’m curious about the original comment now
  - thrance 22d ago
    You can enable "showdead" in the settings to see the content of such comments. But beware, there's some truly heinous stuff sometimes.
    - bewareofscams 22d ago
      "heinous" as in criticizing ruling class and especially Israel.
      - thrance 22d ago
        No, I meant "heinous" as in "actual nazis and hate speech".
        dschu 21d ago
        My post was clearly not against any platform rules. Yet it was flagged as such.
    - datsci_est_2015 22d ago
      The truly heinous stuff is usually green users, at least.
- wyclif 22d ago
  The correct answer is, "Of course he did not; free expression and free speech only exist for people who subscribe to doublethink. All other opinions are thoughtcrime."

throw0101a 22d ago

> Once upon a time I used Twitter's API Once upon a time Twitter used to have RSS/Atom feeds for each account. * https://www.seroundtable.com/twitter-rss-depreciated-16973.html https://www.seroundtable.com/twitter-rss-depreciated-16973.h...

dansquizsoft 22d ago

Just Europe?

inigyou 22d ago
At the moment.
datsci_est_2015 22d ago
Already succeeded in the US. Now it’s a project of whether it can be used to maintain power. Right wing populist movements ebb and flow quite readily: - ebb: people realize that promises of change are empty and only enrich the few elite - flow: people have forgotten that the promises were empty last time Hopefully I’m correctly sensing the shifting of the winds. Meta platforms are more responsible for atrocities in other parts of the world, e.g. Myanmar.

roryirvine 22d ago

"The world's town square", where everyone could gather and see what was going on. And, for more than a decade, it appeared to work pretty well. Governments, media outlets, public-facing services of all kinds came to rely on it as their main way to talk to the public. But now it's impossible to use without a login, most of that value has been lost. The best thing to do is to learn from what happened, and not allow a proprietary platform to become so central again.

swed420 22d ago
> The best thing to do is to learn from what happened, and not allow a proprietary platform to become so central again. In the spirit of that, here's some brainstorming: https://www.noemamag.com/the-last-days-of-social-media/ https://www.noemamag.com/the-last-days-of-social-media/
MattDaEskimo 22d ago
Never had an X account, never will. Now I'm completely locked out of police reports & municipal updates in my area because it's the only platform they post on.
- EgregiousCube 21d ago
  You say completely locked out, but be fair, that's a choice you're making. I don't particularly like Facebook but there are a few things I can only keep up with there, so I have a minimal account for that purpose.
  - MattDaEskimo 21d ago
    In what world should a citizen be required to provide their details to a foreign, for-profit company in order to view the updates provided by their government?
  - andrekandre 21d ago
    you shouldn't have to join a private group to get public information though; i think that is the op's point

parineum 22d ago

> Now it's a political project to elect the extreme-right in Europe. Certainly the policy of the opposition has nothing to do with the backlash. No definitely not. It's certainly just dumb people being tricked by the bad guys. If these people could just get properly educated and shielded from the bad ideas surely they'd see the light.

jabron 22d ago
There's a reason the owning class is almost always pushing the same kind of narrative, and the reason is that it's serving them, not people at large.
ragnese 21d ago
So you're saying that the current management of Twitter does not favor politically-right messaging? Otherwise, your message is a non-sequitur. The comment you replied to made no statement about the effectiveness of the project. It's like saying that George Soros is engaged in trying to elect left-wing leadership; nobody denies that.
- parineum 21d ago
  I'm saying the right wing push and it's attractiveness doesn't come from the top down. Media is a bottom up industry, successful media is the media people want to consume. If right wing media is popular, it's because right wing messages are popular. Acting like the media are the tastemakers is a convenient way for people to avoid looking in the mirror and doing any kind of self reflection. The right wing is making a push in Europe because Elon Musk has a trillion dollars, not because the parties in power have done anything wrong. Their ideas are only unpopular because the bad man is lying to them. If it wasn't for all this fake news, everyone would see that I am obviously correct and we'd have 100% support. X and it's right wing lean isn't the problem. People are attracted to right wing politics because they don't like what they currently have. The problems isn't that an alternative exists, the problem is the people don't like them.

pedropaulovc 22d ago

Reminder that the Bluesky firehose is open even for unauthenticated users: https://artifacts.vza.net/emojihose/ https://artifacts.vza.net/emojihose/

kopirgan 21d ago

Has always been a political project only the politics changed. API access etc are business issues. Can't mix them up.

zdragnar 21d ago

The free API was closed off well before Twitter ownership changed hands. Even the paid API became untenable for many early users well beforehand. The writing was on the wall for Twitter well before musk got involved, sadly.

RedCinnabar 21d ago

> Now it's a political project to elect the extreme-right in Europe. You people are completely out of touch with reality. You cannot accept that the reason of why we’re voting for the “far” right is because we experienced a whole decade of uncontrolled immigration policies that permanently reshaped the way of living of previously homogeneous countries.