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Upvoted: I was going to write this exact reply. Everyone is a bit tired of hearing about AI, but it's advancing fast and it's the most important thing right now

Upvoted: I was going to write this exact reply. Everyone is a bit tired of hearing about AI, but it's advancing fast and it's the most important thing right now. As Demis says, if we get to ASI, we can solve all other issues with it.

netdevphoenix 23d ago
> it's advancing fast Actually, it (LLM models) has been advancing slower for a while. This is pretty much in the mainstream. And the current approach is facing all sorts of obstacles that are not exclusively technological. The compute needs are no longer sustainable. Financially, big labs are drowning in debt and backlash against data centres has grown so much that it has become an electoral topic in at least one major country.
jdjdjdjdjdi 23d ago
why exactly do we want ASI, and further, if we DID, why on Earth would we want it controlled by the likes of Sam Altman, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Marc Andreessen, and Larry Ellison? FUCK THAT
- fcanesin 23d ago
  Support DeepSeek and Ziphu than, I am not advocating the merits but it is the reality. ASI will be pursued regardless of wants.
lovich 22d ago
Shit we’re onto thinking ASI is happening soon? I guess people hyped up AGI so much that it’s no longer thrilling to talk about despite not getting to that point either.
sph 22d ago
> if we get to ASI, we can solve all other issues with it Jesus Christ this has to be bait. Added to the favourites to laugh about it when the lunacy and hype has died down in 5 years and the trough of disillusionment has truly settled in. Or to laugh about it when ASI actually has arrived and we're waiting in line to be turned into biofuel for the Greater Good. Everybody is literally pinning their hopes that God itself comes out of machine to save them from the exponentially accelerating pile of tech debt, and they're not even half joking about it. This is not engineering, this is utter madness.
- DarmokTanagra 22d ago
  Its just the next hype cycle that all of the crypto people have moved on to. Making hyperbolic claims about new tech makes people billions, until that changes you will always see this crap. This site is owned an operated by people building empires around that principle.
  - sph 22d ago
    Say what you want about crypto, they didn’t expect Jesus to descend from the sky to shill Bitcoin.
    - DarmokTanagra 22d ago
      I remember having conversations with crypto shills where they really thought blockchains were going to be used to replace nation states. They had whole manifestos prepared about how crypto was going to reshape society as we know it. Its the same exact people making the same exact claims, only difference is substitution of "blockchain" for "ai".
- tim333 22d ago
  I'd say it is engineering. There's a Moore's law like steady progress where the effective IQ goes up each year which will result in neither troughs nor biofuel but just smart AI. Given human nature I also think it'll be kind of undramatic. Like when jet aviation transformed things people moan about check-in queues and maybe with ASI people will probably moan their robot butler is only 200 IQ when their neighbours is 205.
grebc 22d ago
If intelligence solved everything, you’d have already solved everything already brother.

netdevphoenix 23d ago

> it's advancing fast Actually, it (LLM models) has been advancing slower for a while. This is pretty much in the mainstream. And the current approach is facing all sorts of obstacles that are not exclusively technological. The compute needs are no longer sustainable. Financially, big labs are drowning in debt and backlash against data centres has grown so much that it has become an electoral topic in at least one major country.

jdjdjdjdjdi 23d ago

why exactly do we want ASI, and further, if we DID, why on Earth would we want it controlled by the likes of Sam Altman, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Marc Andreessen, and Larry Ellison? FUCK THAT

fcanesin 23d ago
Support DeepSeek and Ziphu than, I am not advocating the merits but it is the reality. ASI will be pursued regardless of wants.

lovich 22d ago

Shit we’re onto thinking ASI is happening soon? I guess people hyped up AGI so much that it’s no longer thrilling to talk about despite not getting to that point either.

sph 22d ago

> if we get to ASI, we can solve all other issues with it Jesus Christ this has to be bait. Added to the favourites to laugh about it when the lunacy and hype has died down in 5 years and the trough of disillusionment has truly settled in. Or to laugh about it when ASI actually has arrived and we're waiting in line to be turned into biofuel for the Greater Good. Everybody is literally pinning their hopes that God itself comes out of machine to save them from the exponentially accelerating pile of tech debt, and they're not even half joking about it. This is not engineering, this is utter madness.

DarmokTanagra 22d ago
Its just the next hype cycle that all of the crypto people have moved on to. Making hyperbolic claims about new tech makes people billions, until that changes you will always see this crap. This site is owned an operated by people building empires around that principle.
- sph 22d ago
  Say what you want about crypto, they didn’t expect Jesus to descend from the sky to shill Bitcoin.
  - DarmokTanagra 22d ago
    I remember having conversations with crypto shills where they really thought blockchains were going to be used to replace nation states. They had whole manifestos prepared about how crypto was going to reshape society as we know it. Its the same exact people making the same exact claims, only difference is substitution of "blockchain" for "ai".
tim333 22d ago
I'd say it is engineering. There's a Moore's law like steady progress where the effective IQ goes up each year which will result in neither troughs nor biofuel but just smart AI. Given human nature I also think it'll be kind of undramatic. Like when jet aviation transformed things people moan about check-in queues and maybe with ASI people will probably moan their robot butler is only 200 IQ when their neighbours is 205.

grebc 22d ago

If intelligence solved everything, you’d have already solved everything already brother.