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I ditched Google Workspace for Proton earlier this year and haven't looked back. Yes, the Proton apps don't integrate with everything and E2E encrypted data isn

by pnw 24d ago

I ditched Google Workspace for Proton earlier this year and haven't looked back. Yes, the Proton apps don't integrate with everything and E2E encrypted data isn't as accessible as the data held in Google apps, but that's a bonus at this point.

nha1 24d ago
I learned recently that there is controversy around Proton and (surprisingly to me) far-right. Previous HN discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446899 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446899
- copper-float 24d ago
  Some people understand that there is naunce in the world. This is literally just the view of a single sponsor. The way everyone gets so up-in-arms about the political views of a person three levels detached from the company is insane. "Oh no, an individual with different views than me offhandedly mentioned Proton, the horror! I can't possibly differentiate between the views of a company and a separate individual! Let's go grandstand about canceling our service and discouraging others from signing up because a random person thinks differently than me, and talked about the company."
  - evulhotdog 24d ago
    I believe when the views of that person who has influence on the product, and it does not align with the services they say they desire to provide, it’s an issue. It also can purely be choosing to not support an organization that doesn’t align with your world view. The money in our pockets is the power to change things.
    - pitched 24d ago
      If I’m reading this right, it was a failure at due diligence before sponsoring a YouTube channel. That doesn’t sound at all like what you wrote so maybe you could expand on what the controversy was?
- NietTim 23d ago
  Admitted it was a mistake, fixed it. Meanwhile google is actively platforming and funding the far right, and has no issue with it. What is the issue with Proton here exactly? This is a complete nothing burger.

by pnw 24d ago

nha1 24d ago

I learned recently that there is controversy around Proton and (surprisingly to me) far-right. Previous HN discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446899 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48446899

copper-float 24d ago
Some people understand that there is naunce in the world. This is literally just the view of a single sponsor. The way everyone gets so up-in-arms about the political views of a person three levels detached from the company is insane. "Oh no, an individual with different views than me offhandedly mentioned Proton, the horror! I can't possibly differentiate between the views of a company and a separate individual! Let's go grandstand about canceling our service and discouraging others from signing up because a random person thinks differently than me, and talked about the company."
- evulhotdog 24d ago
  I believe when the views of that person who has influence on the product, and it does not align with the services they say they desire to provide, it’s an issue. It also can purely be choosing to not support an organization that doesn’t align with your world view. The money in our pockets is the power to change things.
  - pitched 24d ago
    If I’m reading this right, it was a failure at due diligence before sponsoring a YouTube channel. That doesn’t sound at all like what you wrote so maybe you could expand on what the controversy was?
NietTim 23d ago
Admitted it was a mistake, fixed it. Meanwhile google is actively platforming and funding the far right, and has no issue with it. What is the issue with Proton here exactly? This is a complete nothing burger.