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The first time I built a PC, and the first time I mounted a heatsink, was to one of these bare die AMD CPUs. I heard about the fragility of these, and must have

The first time I built a PC, and the first time I mounted a heatsink, was to one of these bare die AMD CPUs. I heard about the fragility of these, and must have read the directions about ten times, and paused and checked each step about five times while doing it. It came out fine, but it was nerve wracking as hell. Overclocking an Athlon XP 2500+ to a 3200+ was pretty cool. Easiest overclock ever.

bdavbdav 24d ago
Was that the ol’ pencil mod?
- theandrewbailey 24d ago
  No. AMD was taking 3200+ chips and binning/selling them as 2500+ chips. All it took was increasing the FSB speed in the BIOS, and a bit of luck from the silicon lottery. No hardware mods.
  - cdmckay 24d ago
    Reminds of me of the Celeron 300A to 450 overclock.
    - lightedman 24d ago
      I took that old Celeron further and managed 533 stable with a screaming delta fan and a component swap on the mobo, beefier VRMs. Slap on a 256K stick of Winbond cache and boy did that thing scream for its time.
jnpnj 24d ago
Even as a naive teen, I always found the mechanical forces required to clamp cpu heatsinks and fans brutally high considering the small ceramic package underneath.
unethical_ban 24d ago
My first build was an AMD "Venice" 3000+. Stock 2.8 GHz, I think I got it to 3.4 GHz with a DFI LANParty! motherboard and 512MB of DDR-600. Second CPU was a Pentium D, the first Intel generation of dual-core. Stock 2.66 GHz, I got it to 3.6 GHz. Almost 1GHz of overclock! Prime95 stable! It's nice that modern CPUs self-overclock well, and my 9850X3D is by far the best CPU I've ever owned. But I miss the tweaking days a little. Fun hobby. This must be what petrol heads fear about EVs. Sure, they're simpler and less maintenance and healthier. But you can't overbore it, or add a turbo, or change the cams.
- apitman 24d ago
  > DFI LANParty Now that is a name I have not heard in a long time
- dave7 24d ago
  > This must be what petrol heads fear about EVs. Sure, they're simpler and less maintenance and healthier. But you can't overbore it, or add a turbo, or change the cams. I did learn from a Youtube vid not so long ago that you can flash cheaper Taycans to their high performance "turbo" "bios" if you have the nerve! [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ygs-vu4D0U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ygs-vu4D0U

bdavbdav 24d ago

Was that the ol’ pencil mod?

theandrewbailey 24d ago
No. AMD was taking 3200+ chips and binning/selling them as 2500+ chips. All it took was increasing the FSB speed in the BIOS, and a bit of luck from the silicon lottery. No hardware mods.
- cdmckay 24d ago
  Reminds of me of the Celeron 300A to 450 overclock.
  - lightedman 24d ago
    I took that old Celeron further and managed 533 stable with a screaming delta fan and a component swap on the mobo, beefier VRMs. Slap on a 256K stick of Winbond cache and boy did that thing scream for its time.

jnpnj 24d ago

Even as a naive teen, I always found the mechanical forces required to clamp cpu heatsinks and fans brutally high considering the small ceramic package underneath.

unethical_ban 24d ago

My first build was an AMD "Venice" 3000+. Stock 2.8 GHz, I think I got it to 3.4 GHz with a DFI LANParty! motherboard and 512MB of DDR-600. Second CPU was a Pentium D, the first Intel generation of dual-core. Stock 2.66 GHz, I got it to 3.6 GHz. Almost 1GHz of overclock! Prime95 stable! It's nice that modern CPUs self-overclock well, and my 9850X3D is by far the best CPU I've ever owned. But I miss the tweaking days a little. Fun hobby. This must be what petrol heads fear about EVs. Sure, they're simpler and less maintenance and healthier. But you can't overbore it, or add a turbo, or change the cams.

apitman 24d ago
> DFI LANParty Now that is a name I have not heard in a long time
dave7 24d ago
> This must be what petrol heads fear about EVs. Sure, they're simpler and less maintenance and healthier. But you can't overbore it, or add a turbo, or change the cams. I did learn from a Youtube vid not so long ago that you can flash cheaper Taycans to their high performance "turbo" "bios" if you have the nerve! [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ygs-vu4D0U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ygs-vu4D0U