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Absolute crickets from the "there's no way LLM's can rewrite Bun to Rust this quickly, it's going to be buggy, it's marketing" crowd Comments here 3 months ago

Absolute crickets from the "there's no way LLM's can rewrite Bun to Rust this quickly, it's going to be buggy, it's marketing" crowd Comments here 3 months ago are quite something: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132488 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132488

ThouYS 28d ago
The copium has run out it seems
zem 28d ago
this is currently on the front page of lobsters, I saw it even before I saw the bun 1.4 release announcement https://tipiirai.com/writing/bun-rust-rewrite-worries https://tipiirai.com/writing/bun-rust-rewrite-worries
- reducesuffering 28d ago
  Lobste.rs is now flagging Bun 1.4 post as spam and comments are dismissing it as nothing, even as that blog post got much more discussion and piling on about the rewrite. Internet echo chambers are quite a problem. AI success and its immense implications are wreaking havoc on the ability of even intellectuals in HN and lobsters to face reality in front of them, even as their predictions become falsified again and again.
  - zem 28d ago
    honestly, no opinions on bun either way, I was just pointing out that the pushback against the big bang AI rewrite is far from quieted down.
  - owebmaster 28d ago
    > Internet echo chambers are quite a problem. AI success and its immense implications are wreaking havoc on the ability of even intellectuals in HN and lobsters to face reality in front of them, even as their predictions become falsified again and again. In this scenario, do you see yourself as an intellectual? In this case, one that is illuminated by the glory of AI. Or just looking for validation and not finding?
solid_fuel 28d ago
Sure I’ll bite the obvious bait, why not. > Absolute crickets from the "there's no way LLM's can rewrite Bun to Rust this quickly, it's going to be buggy, it's marketing" crowd > Comments here 3 months ago are quite something: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132488 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132488 Did you… perhaps read the entire comment you just posted? The crowd that was saying “no way they did that in 11 days” sure seems correct given that the release today is 3 months later. 3 months is longer than 11 days. Significantly so, in fact.
- tock 28d ago
  1.4 also adds a lot of features so its more than a port. Plus Claude Code has been using the rust port since atleast July 19. So its definitely less than 3 months.
  - solid_fuel 28d ago
    Or, more likely, the amount of crappy auto generated code and “features” they crammed into this release resulted in so many bugs that a “simple rewrite” would up being 3 months of whack-a-mole with the issues they created. That’s the predictable result from the lack of engineering discipline involved here.
    - tock 27d ago
      Claude Code has millions of users and like I said had been using the 1.4 canary a lot earlier than 3 months. But even 3 months is an absurdly impressive timeline for this. And its even more insane to think LLMs are only going to get better. Jeez.
- pohl 28d ago
  Be honest, though: had they shipped earlier—which they probably could have safely done—they would have been called “reckless” by the detractors. There was no way to make them happy here.
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ThouYS 28d ago

The copium has run out it seems

zem 28d ago

this is currently on the front page of lobsters, I saw it even before I saw the bun 1.4 release announcement https://tipiirai.com/writing/bun-rust-rewrite-worries https://tipiirai.com/writing/bun-rust-rewrite-worries

reducesuffering 28d ago
Lobste.rs is now flagging Bun 1.4 post as spam and comments are dismissing it as nothing, even as that blog post got much more discussion and piling on about the rewrite. Internet echo chambers are quite a problem. AI success and its immense implications are wreaking havoc on the ability of even intellectuals in HN and lobsters to face reality in front of them, even as their predictions become falsified again and again.
- zem 28d ago
  honestly, no opinions on bun either way, I was just pointing out that the pushback against the big bang AI rewrite is far from quieted down.
- owebmaster 28d ago
  > Internet echo chambers are quite a problem. AI success and its immense implications are wreaking havoc on the ability of even intellectuals in HN and lobsters to face reality in front of them, even as their predictions become falsified again and again. In this scenario, do you see yourself as an intellectual? In this case, one that is illuminated by the glory of AI. Or just looking for validation and not finding?

solid_fuel 28d ago

Sure I’ll bite the obvious bait, why not. > Absolute crickets from the "there's no way LLM's can rewrite Bun to Rust this quickly, it's going to be buggy, it's marketing" crowd > Comments here 3 months ago are quite something: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132488 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48132488 Did you… perhaps read the entire comment you just posted? The crowd that was saying “no way they did that in 11 days” sure seems correct given that the release today is 3 months later. 3 months is longer than 11 days. Significantly so, in fact.

tock 28d ago
1.4 also adds a lot of features so its more than a port. Plus Claude Code has been using the rust port since atleast July 19. So its definitely less than 3 months.
- solid_fuel 28d ago
  Or, more likely, the amount of crappy auto generated code and “features” they crammed into this release resulted in so many bugs that a “simple rewrite” would up being 3 months of whack-a-mole with the issues they created. That’s the predictable result from the lack of engineering discipline involved here.
  - tock 27d ago
    Claude Code has millions of users and like I said had been using the 1.4 canary a lot earlier than 3 months. But even 3 months is an absurdly impressive timeline for this. And its even more insane to think LLMs are only going to get better. Jeez.
pohl 28d ago
Be honest, though: had they shipped earlier—which they probably could have safely done—they would have been called “reckless” by the detractors. There was no way to make them happy here.
- 28d ago