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The more turnover the more leadership wants to keep talent. The more turnover the more hiring leadership needs to keep headcount. Greater turnover is good for

The more turnover the more leadership wants to keep talent. The more turnover the more hiring leadership needs to keep headcount. Greater turnover is good for all employees and worse for employers

b1gTekken 1mo ago
Not just in employment; voting out incumbents improves economic growth for the majority: https://www.nber.org/papers/w29766 https://www.nber.org/papers/w29766 Since the early 1980s, start of the Millennial generation, inflation is 300%; takes $800k/yr to have the buying power of $200k/yr in the 80s Millennials and GenZ have only ever known austerity and oligarchy. And that Exxon computed the min-max of the climate trend back in the 1970s just says they know, given all the data, they know. GenX edge lords don't give shiiiit https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/style/gen-x-generation-discourse.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/style/gen-x-generation-di... I have zero respect for people >50 especially any in official policy roles. Zero fucks for anyone but themselves this whole time; ignored reality just like religious nutters and presumed political dogma would be on their side Jokes on them; Millennials are even more convinced it all just goes black with death, fewer young people going into elder care jobs, population decline crushing those jobs... GenX can enjoy hobbling to their toilet unassisted with bed sores and gout. Fuck them too then
- hattmall 1mo ago
  That's some pretty extreme bitterness. Good luck to you.
  - harimau777 1mo ago
    I mean, can you blame them? Look at the world the boomers damned us to.
    - mlrtime 1mo ago
      Which is statistically better than any time in history for all ages. *For long time periods, not cherry-picking small time periods.
      - scarecrowbob 1mo ago
        I dunno, the Ute and Navajo folks I live near don't agree. A lot of the indigenous folks I know think we are living in a literal apocalypse. Historically the way white folks have squared that circle has been to say that those folks aren't really people and simply don't know the joys of Christian city dwelling. I can't make the math work, though.
      - b1gTekken 1mo ago
        And statistically worse in many ways. Statistics are just euphemism for history, prior observation; stats exist for both categories. We can write and carry on about wars we won and ignore Vietnam with stats just as we do English. It's just a language that lets us ignore physical reality like religious catechism; same biological ability to delude ourselves. There's the whole ignoring externalities of capitalism and reality itself for toxic positivity thing. Sure is great though watching where I grew up slowly become engulfed in wildfire smoke; something that never happened until 10 years ago.
  - b1gTekken 1mo ago
    Don't know you, text on a screen, don't care. American freedom; off the hook assuring a social safety net exists for you is pretty great. Will go my entire life never having to worry if you end up buried in medical debt living in your car.
DANmode 1mo ago
But greater turnover only occurs when people don’t want to stay. It’s my observation a high-turnover business is often good for nobody. There’s more spent in retraining etc than if you just paid halfway-competent people properly instead of literally rolling the dice every year or more.
- samrus 1mo ago
  Yeah. Itd be ideal if companies could adjust their existing employees wages fairly. This alternative of people moving frequently creates a high turnover org which isnt efficient. But if employers dont compensate their existing employees fairly then high turnover is unfortunately the only way to go
  - DANmode 28d ago
    > Itd be ideal if companies could adjust their existing employees wages fairly They can. Employee-owned companies do it all of the time. Properly-ran privately-owned companies do it all of the time. Who’s the odd one out?

The more turnover the more leadership wants to keep talent. The more turnover the more hiring leadership needs to keep headcount. Greater turnover is good for all employees and worse for employers

b1gTekken 1mo ago

Not just in employment; voting out incumbents improves economic growth for the majority: https://www.nber.org/papers/w29766 https://www.nber.org/papers/w29766 Since the early 1980s, start of the Millennial generation, inflation is 300%; takes $800k/yr to have the buying power of $200k/yr in the 80s Millennials and GenZ have only ever known austerity and oligarchy. And that Exxon computed the min-max of the climate trend back in the 1970s just says they know, given all the data, they know. GenX edge lords don't give shiiiit https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/style/gen-x-generation-discourse.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/25/style/gen-x-generation-di... I have zero respect for people >50 especially any in official policy roles. Zero fucks for anyone but themselves this whole time; ignored reality just like religious nutters and presumed political dogma would be on their side Jokes on them; Millennials are even more convinced it all just goes black with death, fewer young people going into elder care jobs, population decline crushing those jobs... GenX can enjoy hobbling to their toilet unassisted with bed sores and gout. Fuck them too then

hattmall 1mo ago
That's some pretty extreme bitterness. Good luck to you.
- harimau777 1mo ago
  I mean, can you blame them? Look at the world the boomers damned us to.
  - mlrtime 1mo ago
    Which is statistically better than any time in history for all ages. *For long time periods, not cherry-picking small time periods.
    - scarecrowbob 1mo ago
      I dunno, the Ute and Navajo folks I live near don't agree. A lot of the indigenous folks I know think we are living in a literal apocalypse. Historically the way white folks have squared that circle has been to say that those folks aren't really people and simply don't know the joys of Christian city dwelling. I can't make the math work, though.
    - b1gTekken 1mo ago
      And statistically worse in many ways. Statistics are just euphemism for history, prior observation; stats exist for both categories. We can write and carry on about wars we won and ignore Vietnam with stats just as we do English. It's just a language that lets us ignore physical reality like religious catechism; same biological ability to delude ourselves. There's the whole ignoring externalities of capitalism and reality itself for toxic positivity thing. Sure is great though watching where I grew up slowly become engulfed in wildfire smoke; something that never happened until 10 years ago.
- b1gTekken 1mo ago
  Don't know you, text on a screen, don't care. American freedom; off the hook assuring a social safety net exists for you is pretty great. Will go my entire life never having to worry if you end up buried in medical debt living in your car.

DANmode 1mo ago

But greater turnover only occurs when people don’t want to stay. It’s my observation a high-turnover business is often good for nobody. There’s more spent in retraining etc than if you just paid halfway-competent people properly instead of literally rolling the dice every year or more.

samrus 1mo ago
Yeah. Itd be ideal if companies could adjust their existing employees wages fairly. This alternative of people moving frequently creates a high turnover org which isnt efficient. But if employers dont compensate their existing employees fairly then high turnover is unfortunately the only way to go
- DANmode 28d ago
  > Itd be ideal if companies could adjust their existing employees wages fairly They can. Employee-owned companies do it all of the time. Properly-ran privately-owned companies do it all of the time. Who’s the odd one out?