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Unfortunately this is a very misleading article and headline. I don't doubt the end result - it's useful that it works, but it's not "natively" and, unlike what

Unfortunately this is a very misleading article and headline. I don't doubt the end result - it's useful that it works, but it's not "natively" and, unlike what some people assume, Claude didn't write a driver. It basically used HP's existing proprietary driver in a Linux VM on macOS, and just bridged that to macOS. It also requires a root launcher that runs code from the user ~/.hp1008 dir, so security is weakened.

xyst 1mo ago
yup, clocked this in just the first few lines of the transcript. I am sooo tired of this AI generated slop.
perching_aix 1mo ago
It's strange, because I have zero doubt in my mind that Claude could 100% genuinely reimplement the driver and port it to actually natively run on macOS, were it prompted that way.
- qingcharles 1mo ago
  Agreed. I bought some cheap host-managed SATA drives the other day that the BIOS can't see and Windows won't recognize. I asked Claude to write a Windows app so I can use them, and it resisted at first, but then gave up and wrote it and they now work great. It had to implement the entire stack of bare-metal drive functions over SATA and a whole new filesystem to go with it.
- bombcar 1mo ago
  Generate the VM, send it crafted PDFs to print, see what it produces, and build a driver. Not that “hard” even for a human, an AI could probably one-shot it.
pudgywalsh 1mo ago
For the amount of electricity wasted by the LLM in the data center it would have been more efficient to buy a new printer that works out of the box.
- bethekidyouwant 1mo ago
  Redditors actually believe this
  - NewsaHackO 1mo ago
    Also, they seem to care about wasting electricity but doesn’t bat an eye of discarding a perfectly fine printer.
    - Quothling 1mo ago
      I'm not GP but I assume the point they were making was that throwing away the old printer a buying a new one would consume less world resources than using Claude to build this driver.
- yjftsjthsd-h 1mo ago
  Do we have good numbers for the embodied energy of a printer? I would be interested to know what the actual cutoff point is.
netsharc 1mo ago
Ah, 2026... When the "tech write up" on page 1 of "Hacker News" is some genius selling an LLM creating a VM as "wrote a driver". OP should probably add this to his list of accomplishments on LinkedIn...
a2tech 1mo ago
He could have done this with 10-15 minutes of googling instead of spending 4 hours prompting a LLM.
- mikelsodenberg5 1mo ago
  yes, see guys this genius would have done it in 15 minutes, applaud him!
supriyo-biswas 1mo ago
This comment should be pinned, and the fact that a misleading post continues to be on the first page blows my mind.
- adamtaylor_13 1mo ago
  Yeah except you and every other commenter failed to even read the post. It's native.
mrweasel 1mo ago
Yeah, that was rather disappointing. I wouldn't have minded that the Linux driver had been used as an input, allowing Claude to reason about the functionality and interface. That seems like a reasonable approach. The "only built for Windows" is also a little dubious. Technically I suppose HP could have just intended it as a Windows printer, but the driver clearly already exists in CUPS, which Apple also uses, so porting the driver isn't an unreasonable thought.
kuberwastaken 1mo ago
UPDATE: Noted, shifted to a 100% native MacOS version now :D https://github.com/Kuberwastaken/hp-laser-1008a-macos https://github.com/Kuberwastaken/hp-laser-1008a-macos Previous context I shared on X: "Also some clarification on the "he's just using the linux driver in the VM" - not quite This is one of the weirdest batch of printers HP made because it's a rebranded Samsung - it "comes" under HP's unified drivers system but specifically has Samsung's printer language so compatibility is extremely messy. What this version does is take the Linux Unified Driver and extract just the relevant component, rastertospl, basically the codec that turns CUPS raster data into the Samsung SPL format the printer understands. That codec is then wired into macOS’s native CUPS stack, so printing happens through the system like a normal driver. There’s no Linux VM handling the actual print workflow and the entire process basically acting as a driver normally at system level. In theory, yeah - rastertospl could be reimplemented from scratch. But that would be way more unreliable while turning this from a ~4-hour project into a ~4-day reverse-engineering project, when starting this, I really just wanted a working home printer and running a tiny compatibility applet in Docker just for that codec feels like a pretty reasonable compromise AND I get to not see my mac kernel crash if it messes up. I didn't expect this to blow up this much lol, so I'll be experimenting with this further and am already in talks with the splix team to sort this specific version out"
- topham 1mo ago
  You didn't have what you needed; you asked an AI to help make what you needed. Problem solved. New problem created. New problem? Justifying the use of AI to do something these people act like would magically get done if you were just slightly more patient. Or, if you put in 60+ hrs of time.
  - vedmed 1mo ago
    Haha perfectly said and reminds me of the time I used AI to fix my neighborhood's comcast outages by correctly diagnosing the issue and there was a guy in the comments thread angry with me for burning down rainforests
- 192381238 1mo ago
column 1mo ago
I do not want to call anyone names but the level of pedantry and gatekeeping in this comment and the replies is outstanding. I can hear Chuck McGill screaming "You're not a real driver!".
- fg137 1mo ago
  Since when is pointing out technical errors a sin on HN?
  - 59nadir 28d ago
    Since the influx of people who know basically nothing about anything made that part the majority and it became mostly business hype and pretense.
- xxs 1mo ago
  requiring a full blown VM (with a different OS) to implement a driver (normally that would work in ring-0 along with the original OS) is not pedantry. for instance the 'windows' part is also entirely nonsensical as the printer works on a default mint installation w/o any issues. The "obscure" part is weird as you can just buy the printer online as well.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 1mo ago
    > A device driver is software that operates or controls a particular type of device that is attached to a computer.[1] A driver provides a software interface to hardware devices, enabling other software to access hardware functions without needing to know precise details about the hardware. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_driver https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_driver Is using a VM running another operating system as part of a driver weird, yes. Is it still a driver? Also yes.
- RunSet 1mo ago
  "What is written without effort is in general read without pleasure."
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adamtaylor_13 1mo ago
It runs natively... did you even read the post at all?
- losvedir 1mo ago
  Yes, they probably read it 15 hours ago when that comment was posted, before OP changed it, in response to these comments. Though I'm not convinced it actually is. OP said the same the first time around, and I don't think actually understands what they (or rather Claude) is doing. The HN comment here claiming they updated it, clearly written by Claude, doesn't inspire much confidence.

xyst 1mo ago

yup, clocked this in just the first few lines of the transcript. I am sooo tired of this AI generated slop.

perching_aix 1mo ago

It's strange, because I have zero doubt in my mind that Claude could 100% genuinely reimplement the driver and port it to actually natively run on macOS, were it prompted that way.

qingcharles 1mo ago
Agreed. I bought some cheap host-managed SATA drives the other day that the BIOS can't see and Windows won't recognize. I asked Claude to write a Windows app so I can use them, and it resisted at first, but then gave up and wrote it and they now work great. It had to implement the entire stack of bare-metal drive functions over SATA and a whole new filesystem to go with it.
bombcar 1mo ago
Generate the VM, send it crafted PDFs to print, see what it produces, and build a driver. Not that “hard” even for a human, an AI could probably one-shot it.

pudgywalsh 1mo ago

For the amount of electricity wasted by the LLM in the data center it would have been more efficient to buy a new printer that works out of the box.

bethekidyouwant 1mo ago
Redditors actually believe this
- NewsaHackO 1mo ago
  Also, they seem to care about wasting electricity but doesn’t bat an eye of discarding a perfectly fine printer.
  - Quothling 1mo ago
    I'm not GP but I assume the point they were making was that throwing away the old printer a buying a new one would consume less world resources than using Claude to build this driver.
yjftsjthsd-h 1mo ago
Do we have good numbers for the embodied energy of a printer? I would be interested to know what the actual cutoff point is.

netsharc 1mo ago

Ah, 2026... When the "tech write up" on page 1 of "Hacker News" is some genius selling an LLM creating a VM as "wrote a driver". OP should probably add this to his list of accomplishments on LinkedIn...

a2tech 1mo ago

He could have done this with 10-15 minutes of googling instead of spending 4 hours prompting a LLM.

mikelsodenberg5 1mo ago
yes, see guys this genius would have done it in 15 minutes, applaud him!

supriyo-biswas 1mo ago

This comment should be pinned, and the fact that a misleading post continues to be on the first page blows my mind.

adamtaylor_13 1mo ago
Yeah except you and every other commenter failed to even read the post. It's native.

mrweasel 1mo ago

Yeah, that was rather disappointing. I wouldn't have minded that the Linux driver had been used as an input, allowing Claude to reason about the functionality and interface. That seems like a reasonable approach. The "only built for Windows" is also a little dubious. Technically I suppose HP could have just intended it as a Windows printer, but the driver clearly already exists in CUPS, which Apple also uses, so porting the driver isn't an unreasonable thought.

kuberwastaken 1mo ago

UPDATE: Noted, shifted to a 100% native MacOS version now :D https://github.com/Kuberwastaken/hp-laser-1008a-macos https://github.com/Kuberwastaken/hp-laser-1008a-macos Previous context I shared on X: "Also some clarification on the "he's just using the linux driver in the VM" - not quite This is one of the weirdest batch of printers HP made because it's a rebranded Samsung - it "comes" under HP's unified drivers system but specifically has Samsung's printer language so compatibility is extremely messy. What this version does is take the Linux Unified Driver and extract just the relevant component, rastertospl, basically the codec that turns CUPS raster data into the Samsung SPL format the printer understands. That codec is then wired into macOS’s native CUPS stack, so printing happens through the system like a normal driver. There’s no Linux VM handling the actual print workflow and the entire process basically acting as a driver normally at system level. In theory, yeah - rastertospl could be reimplemented from scratch. But that would be way more unreliable while turning this from a ~4-hour project into a ~4-day reverse-engineering project, when starting this, I really just wanted a working home printer and running a tiny compatibility applet in Docker just for that codec feels like a pretty reasonable compromise AND I get to not see my mac kernel crash if it messes up. I didn't expect this to blow up this much lol, so I'll be experimenting with this further and am already in talks with the splix team to sort this specific version out"

topham 1mo ago
You didn't have what you needed; you asked an AI to help make what you needed. Problem solved. New problem created. New problem? Justifying the use of AI to do something these people act like would magically get done if you were just slightly more patient. Or, if you put in 60+ hrs of time.
- vedmed 1mo ago
  Haha perfectly said and reminds me of the time I used AI to fix my neighborhood's comcast outages by correctly diagnosing the issue and there was a guy in the comments thread angry with me for burning down rainforests
192381238 1mo ago

column 1mo ago

I do not want to call anyone names but the level of pedantry and gatekeeping in this comment and the replies is outstanding. I can hear Chuck McGill screaming "You're not a real driver!".

fg137 1mo ago
Since when is pointing out technical errors a sin on HN?
- 59nadir 28d ago
  Since the influx of people who know basically nothing about anything made that part the majority and it became mostly business hype and pretense.
xxs 1mo ago
requiring a full blown VM (with a different OS) to implement a driver (normally that would work in ring-0 along with the original OS) is not pedantry. for instance the 'windows' part is also entirely nonsensical as the printer works on a default mint installation w/o any issues. The "obscure" part is weird as you can just buy the printer online as well.
- yjftsjthsd-h 1mo ago
  > A device driver is software that operates or controls a particular type of device that is attached to a computer.[1] A driver provides a software interface to hardware devices, enabling other software to access hardware functions without needing to know precise details about the hardware. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_driver https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_driver Is using a VM running another operating system as part of a driver weird, yes. Is it still a driver? Also yes.
RunSet 1mo ago
"What is written without effort is in general read without pleasure."
1mo ago

adamtaylor_13 1mo ago

It runs natively... did you even read the post at all?

losvedir 1mo ago
Yes, they probably read it 15 hours ago when that comment was posted, before OP changed it, in response to these comments. Though I'm not convinced it actually is. OP said the same the first time around, and I don't think actually understands what they (or rather Claude) is doing. The HN comment here claiming they updated it, clearly written by Claude, doesn't inspire much confidence.