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You're not being negative enough when it comes to non-Android linux phones, and even when it comes to Android, there's just ONE serious project - GrapheneOS whi

by zb3 1mo ago

You're not being negative enough when it comes to non-Android linux phones, and even when it comes to Android, there's just ONE serious project - GrapheneOS which has people working full-time and which will be officially supported on future Motorola flagships. Unfortunately even that one is missing modern replacements of outdated unsupported AOSP sample apps (like Phone and Contacts, others can be replaced without extra privileges).

pizzaiolo 1mo ago
AOSP is quickly becoming a dead end as Google tightens its grip on Android.
dnautics 1mo ago
calyx os seems serious?
chaosharmonic 1mo ago
Doesn't LineageOS have modern versions of those things? I'm not sure it has to have money involved to be serious, and in fact the last time Lineage had money involved it didn't end very well.
- zb3 1mo ago
  Device support is poor, no official GSI versions (with hacks, but still..) are available. Of course money has to be involved.. try asking them whether device X will be supported or try reporting a bug. First you'll be verbally abused by "BadDaemon" (https://gitlab.com/BadDaemon https://gitlab.com/BadDaemon), then you won't get the answer and your bug (and patch) will just sit in the tracker, because as this incredibly kind guy will explain to you, they're volunteers, they'll fix the bug when they want to, or they will never fix the bug. They might support the device in the future, or they might not and you're not supposed to ask about that unless you want to interact with BadDaemon - this interaction is the only thing guaranteed there. Of course there are awesome people there, like npjohnson or mikeNG, but a pack of volunteers just can't compete with big tech giants..
  - chaosharmonic 1mo ago
    I mean I guess that's fair (about money I mean), but I more so mean in the sense of official sponsorships or full-on business ventures. I also, more directly, mean that they do generally have separate versions of core apps. Anyway I'm not sure that one of the oldest and most longstanding third-party ROMs anywhere in the Android scene would fail to meet the threshold for "serious."

by zb3 1mo ago

pizzaiolo 1mo ago

AOSP is quickly becoming a dead end as Google tightens its grip on Android.

dnautics 1mo ago

calyx os seems serious?

chaosharmonic 1mo ago

Doesn't LineageOS have modern versions of those things? I'm not sure it has to have money involved to be serious, and in fact the last time Lineage had money involved it didn't end very well.

zb3 1mo ago
Device support is poor, no official GSI versions (with hacks, but still..) are available. Of course money has to be involved.. try asking them whether device X will be supported or try reporting a bug. First you'll be verbally abused by "BadDaemon" (https://gitlab.com/BadDaemon https://gitlab.com/BadDaemon), then you won't get the answer and your bug (and patch) will just sit in the tracker, because as this incredibly kind guy will explain to you, they're volunteers, they'll fix the bug when they want to, or they will never fix the bug. They might support the device in the future, or they might not and you're not supposed to ask about that unless you want to interact with BadDaemon - this interaction is the only thing guaranteed there. Of course there are awesome people there, like npjohnson or mikeNG, but a pack of volunteers just can't compete with big tech giants..
- chaosharmonic 1mo ago
  I mean I guess that's fair (about money I mean), but I more so mean in the sense of official sponsorships or full-on business ventures. I also, more directly, mean that they do generally have separate versions of core apps. Anyway I'm not sure that one of the oldest and most longstanding third-party ROMs anywhere in the Android scene would fail to meet the threshold for "serious."