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if you use ai to program at all you can't use codeberg.

notpushkin 1mo ago
Good point, I forgot they’ve recently banned it. Updated my comment.
cxr 1mo ago
You've made the same exaggerated claim in two comments. Not only are you not banned from Codeberg if you have used LLMs to help you write code "in any of your projects", but you're not even prohibited from using LLMs to help you develop projects that you host on Codeberg. What you can't do is "share projects that mostly consist of code written by 'generative AI'-tools". <https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/commit/71149c7fc95ccfeae36109b5cddca339e4aa1473 https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/commit/71149c7fc95ccfeae36...>
- wild_egg 1mo ago
  I feel like you just directly contradicted yourself so there must be some nuance I am missing. Or is the key word "mostly"? Like I can use LLMs to help the work but still have to type most of the code myself? I have not written more than maybe 10 lines of code in the last year so it seems I am prohibited from hosting on codeberg? Or is the key word "share" and that's somehow different from "host"?
  - cxr 1mo ago
    I suspect the fidelity of your comment to your actual level of confusion is low. In any case, if you're really this confused by the information provided earlier, then the chances aren't good that there's anything that anyone could say to get you unconfused.
    - wild_egg 1mo ago
      Right... That's exactly the kind of nonsense that turns people away from ecosystems. Good luck with that.
      - cxr 29d ago
        The scope of confusion expands unabated. 1. I am not Codeberg. 2. Turning away people doing unwanted things is the whole purpose of Codeberg's new policy. Why you present this as a undesirable side effect rather than exactly what the policy was designed to do is the only difficult thing to comprehend in this thread.
- rhdunn 1mo ago
  See also the codeberg blog post (https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...) which has more informal guidelines. That includes projects that are: 1. created by LLM agents -- any vibe-coded projects; 2. mainly written and maintained by LLMs -- this would cover the recent changes to the rsync project; 3. tied to the LLM ecosystem -- this covers pytorch, llama.cpp, cursor, SillyTavern, AI skills repositories, and a whole host of other projects.
- bdlowery 1mo ago
  It's not exaggerated. If you use AI at all for any code in the project it cannot be hosted on codeberg. They made that pretty clear in their blog post. You can read it yourself - https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...
  - cxr 1mo ago
    > If you use AI at all for any code in the project it cannot be hosted on codeberg. They made that pretty clear in their blog post. No, they didn't. That's not what the blog post says. > You can read it yourself I didn't fail to do the reading beforehand. I posted a direct link to the change in the TOS and which is currently linked at the top of all Codeberg pages. Can you read it yourself?

Good point, I forgot they’ve recently banned it. Updated my comment.

cxr 1mo ago

You've made the same exaggerated claim in two comments. Not only are you not banned from Codeberg if you have used LLMs to help you write code "in any of your projects", but you're not even prohibited from using LLMs to help you develop projects that you host on Codeberg. What you can't do is "share projects that mostly consist of code written by 'generative AI'-tools". <https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/commit/71149c7fc95ccfeae36109b5cddca339e4aa1473 https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/commit/71149c7fc95ccfeae36...>

wild_egg 1mo ago
I feel like you just directly contradicted yourself so there must be some nuance I am missing. Or is the key word "mostly"? Like I can use LLMs to help the work but still have to type most of the code myself? I have not written more than maybe 10 lines of code in the last year so it seems I am prohibited from hosting on codeberg? Or is the key word "share" and that's somehow different from "host"?
- cxr 1mo ago
  I suspect the fidelity of your comment to your actual level of confusion is low. In any case, if you're really this confused by the information provided earlier, then the chances aren't good that there's anything that anyone could say to get you unconfused.
  - wild_egg 1mo ago
    Right... That's exactly the kind of nonsense that turns people away from ecosystems. Good luck with that.
    - cxr 29d ago
      The scope of confusion expands unabated. 1. I am not Codeberg. 2. Turning away people doing unwanted things is the whole purpose of Codeberg's new policy. Why you present this as a undesirable side effect rather than exactly what the policy was designed to do is the only difficult thing to comprehend in this thread.
rhdunn 1mo ago
See also the codeberg blog post (https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...) which has more informal guidelines. That includes projects that are: 1. created by LLM agents -- any vibe-coded projects; 2. mainly written and maintained by LLMs -- this would cover the recent changes to the rsync project; 3. tied to the LLM ecosystem -- this covers pytorch, llama.cpp, cursor, SillyTavern, AI skills repositories, and a whole host of other projects.
bdlowery 1mo ago
It's not exaggerated. If you use AI at all for any code in the project it cannot be hosted on codeberg. They made that pretty clear in their blog post. You can read it yourself - https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html https://blog.codeberg.org/protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...
- cxr 1mo ago
  > If you use AI at all for any code in the project it cannot be hosted on codeberg. They made that pretty clear in their blog post. No, they didn't. That's not what the blog post says. > You can read it yourself I didn't fail to do the reading beforehand. I posted a direct link to the change in the TOS and which is currently linked at the top of all Codeberg pages. Can you read it yourself?