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If you don't have regulatory hurdles to jump over then there are a whole raft of open-weight models that perform basically as well as Anthropic's offerings (and
by alexjplant 1mo ago
If you don't have regulatory hurdles to jump over then there are a whole raft of open-weight models that perform basically as well as Anthropic's offerings (and, in many cases, better because they're pulling fewer capacity-stretching shenanigans). Check out Kimi, DeepSeek, and GLM series models in particular with something like OpenCode or Pi as a coding harness. If you need a Claude-alike web UI then spin up Open WebUI in a container and expose it via cloudflared so you can use it on the go.
- gymbeaux 1mo agoKimi and DeepSeek are impressive for their size but still run slow on any hardware you or I would have. If you’re proposing we run those via a cloud service, I don’t see a reason to do that when it’s an inferior model and I still have to pay per token for it.
- alexjplant 1mo agoOpenCode Go provides a lot of usage for these models for the paltry sum of $10/month. Z.ai's coding plan provides a single-digit multiple of Claude Code's usage for a similar price and performance level. Kimi and DeepSeek models are hundreds of billions of parameters (or, in K3's case, >1T). Many of these models have Opus-level benchmarks and, as I pointed out previously, often practically outperform Anthropic models because they're more consistent.
- throw1234567891 1mo agoYou should run the maths once. Those tokens cost you much more than the hardware would. But yeah, CAPEX vs OPEX something something.
- jatora 1mo ago[flagged]
- throw1234567891 1mo agoIt’s not, you drink too much Kool-Aid, and your employer has too much money. Or the things you do are simply so irrelevant that nobody cares you’re sending stuff to a company of dubious morality.
- jatora 1mo agoWell which is it? Because the first one also contradicts the claim i'm responding to. I think those thinking their codebases are so novel as to not dare to provide to the providers are quite full of themselves. 99.9% of code is mundane.
- throw1234567891 1mo agoNobody says novel. We just ”can’t send not our own intellectual property to a third party because contracts”. Then we roll out on premise. And we don’t miss anything, in fact we feel we gain more than we lose out. With proper tools we are not far off.
- jatora 29d agoYou feel incorrectly