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> an expensive interview process where the candidate has to be onsite I'm sorry, but if I'm doing the hiring, the person who isn't willing to come on site to d

by nocman 1mo ago

> an expensive interview process where the candidate has to be onsite I'm sorry, but if I'm doing the hiring, the person who isn't willing to come on site to do an interview will be one of the first people off the list to hire (I mean, unless it is a remote job, and the person is nowhere near the employer, obvious exceptions would apply). In-person interviewing can be extremely valuable. Will it filter out every bad candidate? No, some people excel at faking it. However it can be a big help in finding a good candidate.

timr 1mo ago
> I'm sorry, but if I'm doing the hiring, the person who isn't willing to come on site to do an interview will be one of the first people off the list to hire Nobody said anything about not coming on site. That's how we used to do it, in the ancient pre-history of 2019. What I said was that if you bring someone on site only to leetcode them, you deserve not to hire anyone. The downside, of course, is that you don't have the cheap, dumb pre-filter of a memorization test anymore, so you'll have to figure out a better way to winnow down the applicant pool whom you're willing to pay to bring on site. Maybe finally software engineering will achieve a level of interview maturity seen in other professional fields...but I doubt it.
- WalterBright 1mo ago
  If you're willing to travel to be on site, you should be willing to study for the leetcode test.
  - eloisius 1mo ago
    So if it’s just a shit-test to see if the applicant has enough grit to grind through an arbitrary filter, and not to measure their aptitude, why not use Minecraft or something? Come into our office and show us how long it takes you to kill the End Dragon.
    - DonHopkins 1mo ago
      Factorio is a much better test of your design and programming and refectoring ability than Minecraft.
      - timr 1mo ago
        Just fly everyone out in a group and have a big rock-paper-scissors tournament. You can save on airfare.

by nocman 1mo ago

timr 1mo ago

> I'm sorry, but if I'm doing the hiring, the person who isn't willing to come on site to do an interview will be one of the first people off the list to hire Nobody said anything about not coming on site. That's how we used to do it, in the ancient pre-history of 2019. What I said was that if you bring someone on site only to leetcode them, you deserve not to hire anyone. The downside, of course, is that you don't have the cheap, dumb pre-filter of a memorization test anymore, so you'll have to figure out a better way to winnow down the applicant pool whom you're willing to pay to bring on site. Maybe finally software engineering will achieve a level of interview maturity seen in other professional fields...but I doubt it.

WalterBright 1mo ago
If you're willing to travel to be on site, you should be willing to study for the leetcode test.
- eloisius 1mo ago
  So if it’s just a shit-test to see if the applicant has enough grit to grind through an arbitrary filter, and not to measure their aptitude, why not use Minecraft or something? Come into our office and show us how long it takes you to kill the End Dragon.
  - DonHopkins 1mo ago
    Factorio is a much better test of your design and programming and refectoring ability than Minecraft.
    - timr 1mo ago
      Just fly everyone out in a group and have a big rock-paper-scissors tournament. You can save on airfare.