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Crawling the internet and dumping it to disk is not "stealing".
by super256 1mo ago
Crawling the internet and dumping it to disk is not "stealing".
- theyliesoeasily 1mo agoThen distilling models and deobfuscating reasoning traces isn't. Mass downloading copyrighted works is. Which they did. Aaron got threatened with 20 years, they got pentagon contracts.
- michaelmrose 1mo agoIt's not stealing but arguing that it's not infringement because its on the internet is pretty obviously nonsense.
- UpsideDownRide 1mo agoIs everything licensed in the same way? Are there any copyrighted works available to be had through crawling?
- modriano 1mo agoIf they were only copying, for example, New York Times articles and many publishers to a disk, I don't think NYT and the publishers would have sued OpenAI. But OpenAI isn't just copying things to disk. NYT reported ChatGPT (before Dec 2023, [0]) was returning near verbatim sections of NYT articles. Is this stealing? Is it depriving NYT or publishers/writers from money via lost sales/subs? I don't know, but it certainly could be. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/business/media/new-york-times-open-ai-microsoft-lawsuit.html?smid=nytcore-android-share https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/business/media/new-york-t...