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Friend of a friend retired several years ago from Intel. He'll go into detail about all the ways you're being spied on. He won't let you into his house with a s

• matheusmoreira 1mo ago
  > He'll go into detail about all the ways you're being spied on. Don't doubt it for even a second.
• exodust 1mo ago
  > He won't let you into his house with a smartphone His mistrust might be about the phone's owner and the recording apps they might use, more than the smartphone itself. Socially it's much safer to direct suspicion at "the smartphone" rather than the people invited to your house.
  • close04 1mo ago
    A visitor who wants to record will just have a second recording device. Asking nicely to leave the phone behind could only protect from spying the phone owner never intended.
    • exodust 1mo ago
      I thought of that, but dismissed the idea due to reality. In reality, deliberately taking a second recording device other than your phone, escalates intention and risk. If we assume the visitors were unaware of the phone rule before arrival, there's no chance anyone will bring a second recording device. > A visitor who wants to record... Will use the recording device they already carry. If discovered, your phone can hide behind a million excuses. "whoops, I forgot to end my call" or "whoops, I forgot to shut down my streaming app." It can also hide its recording status when using certain covert or custom apps. It is the ultimate recording device able to operate in the open.
  • Hoodedcrow 1mo ago
    To be fair, most phones have invasive Google/Apple/Chinese OEM services that work with high privileges and are invasive on their own, without apps. The share of people using degoogled OSes is small enough to assume it isn't the case. And, to be fair, if someone has a degoogled phone, you'd probably know that by now (I say as also a degoogled user XD)
• Der_Einzige 1mo ago
  The fun part about this comment is that we don't know if "Intel" is the company, or the term for the IC. I'm pretty sure it's equally likely to be either meaning, and no surprise based on whichever is correct.
  • vasco 1mo ago
    The likelihood is 100% that it is the company.
    • lukan 1mo ago
      Not likely.
  • red-iron-pine 1mo ago
    there is quite a lot of industrial espionage happening with Intel and AMD, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are, in fact, extra paranoid
  • kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 1mo ago
    In this case, it's Intel the processor company
• everybodyknows 1mo ago
  How about a Faraday box, by the door? Take to the next level with acoustic insulation, just in case there's a record-now, upload-later mode.
  • nbernard 1mo ago
    > How about a Faraday box, by the door? Not as easy as one may think. If you put a phone in a generic waterproof metal box (metal junction or biscuit box for instance) and call it with another one, most of the time it will still ring...
    • pluc 1mo ago
      A Faraday box that doesn't block signals is just a box.
      • inigyou 1mo ago
        The point is how do you know it's a Faraday box?
        • wackro 1mo ago
          Presumably if you're driven by paranoia to buy or make a Faraday box you will be paranoid enough to try putting your phone in it and calling it
          • nbernard 1mo ago
            The problem is a Faraday box only attenuates signals. And it usually does not attenuate all frequencies identically. So your test may seem successful, but the box not be enough closer to a tower, or if your neighbor added a new AP, or if cell phone frequencies changed since you bought and tested it. Moreover, if you have to open and close it often, you have to be careful that the attenuation doesn't degrade. All that to say that the "Faraday box solution" would mean testing it regularly with professional instruments and all that. It is far simpler and cheaper to ask guests to leave their phones in their cars.