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I've been surprised by the reception to this, as OpenAI, for a while now, has had free API usage when data sharing is enabled (https://help.openai.com/en/articl

by moonu 1mo ago

I've been surprised by the reception to this, as OpenAI, for a while now, has had free API usage when data sharing is enabled (https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10306912-sharing-feedback-evaluation-and-fine-tuning-data-and-api-inputs-and-outputs-with-openai https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10306912-sharing-feedbac...)

OsrsNeedsf2P 1mo ago
I tried following this page, and it's certainly a lot more complex than what Meta is offering. Different price tiers, opt-in configurations, usage based availability.. I'll take the 10x discount for flipping a param switch over this all day long.
- stingraycharles 1mo ago
  Seems pretty clear to me: enable it for the projects you want, and there’s a 1M / 10M token limit per day, depending on the model you use. Assuming an average context size of 100k tokens, that is 10 to 100 requests, which is not a lot. Reason enough to prefer actually paying for Meta as well.
  - no-name-here 1mo ago
    Does it show the free tokens message for you after you enable sharing? It does not for me.
skybrian 1mo ago
This seems to be for business plans only?
- no-name-here 1mo ago
  Does it say that? I’m unclear. Even non business accounts seem to have org settings pages: https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr... But even with all data sharing enabled, I’m not seeing the free tokens message there. Do others see a free tokens message at https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr... after enabling all sharing there?
  - no-name-here 1mo ago
    Also, in a desktop browser at the page's [1] lower left it says "Personal organization", so if the 'organization' term is the concern, OpenAI still seems to use the term 'organization' even for personal accounts. [1] https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr...
- ot 1mo ago
  Subscription plans share data by default (it is possible to opt out though)
no-name-here 1mo ago
I enabled all data sharing settings but still don’t have a message about free use on that screen - the help page says free tokens are available to “some” users - is that 1% of users, 40% of users, etc? Does your screen have the message that you’re getting free tokens? https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr...
- moonu 1mo ago
  Yeah, I have it enabled for just one of my projects, and it says "You're enrolled for complimentary daily tokens." Haven't been billed for any usage with this. Their tooltip doesn't mention the newer models, but it works for those too. I used them in a recent project that I knew wouldn't hit the rate limits. Not sure how eligibility is decided though.
- qingcharles 1mo ago
  I had no idea about this before. I just enabled it. You're eligible for free daily usage on traffic shared with OpenAI. Up to 250 thousand tokens per day across gpt-5.4, gpt-5.2, gpt-5.1, gpt-5.1-codex, gpt-5, gpt-5-codex, gpt-5-chat-latest, gpt-4.1, gpt-4o, o1, and o3 Up to 2.5 million tokens per day across gpt-5.4-mini, gpt-5.4-nano, gpt-5.1-codex-mini, gpt-5-mini, gpt-5-nano, gpt-4.1-mini, gpt-4.1-nano, gpt-4o-mini, o1-mini, o3-mini, o4-mini, and codex-mini-latest. Usage beyond these limits, as well as usage for other models, will be billed at standard rates. Some limitations apply. Learn more.
ignoramous 1mo ago
In my experience using DeepSeek v4 Flash free tier (context size limited to ~200k), the model isn't nearly as good as the paid one for agentic coding tasks. Unsure, if that's the case with these other providers too, though I wouldn't be surprised if it indeed is.
- markasoftware 1mo ago
  There is no official dsv4 flash free tier api afaik. Did you get it from open router or something? Likely quantized. The paid official dsv4 api already shares data with deepseek for training
isaacbreen 1mo ago
1 million free tokens per day might sound like a lot. But that equates to something like 20 minutes of actual coding usage, because cached inputs are counted towards that limit. It's still great for running big singular requests, like solving some math problem with GPT 5.6 Sol Pro max reasoning effort.

by moonu 1mo ago

OsrsNeedsf2P 1mo ago

I tried following this page, and it's certainly a lot more complex than what Meta is offering. Different price tiers, opt-in configurations, usage based availability.. I'll take the 10x discount for flipping a param switch over this all day long.

stingraycharles 1mo ago
Seems pretty clear to me: enable it for the projects you want, and there’s a 1M / 10M token limit per day, depending on the model you use. Assuming an average context size of 100k tokens, that is 10 to 100 requests, which is not a lot. Reason enough to prefer actually paying for Meta as well.
- no-name-here 1mo ago
  Does it show the free tokens message for you after you enable sharing? It does not for me.

skybrian 1mo ago

This seems to be for business plans only?

no-name-here 1mo ago
Does it say that? I’m unclear. Even non business accounts seem to have org settings pages: https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr... But even with all data sharing enabled, I’m not seeing the free tokens message there. Do others see a free tokens message at https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr... after enabling all sharing there?
- no-name-here 1mo ago
  Also, in a desktop browser at the page's [1] lower left it says "Personal organization", so if the 'organization' term is the concern, OpenAI still seems to use the term 'organization' even for personal accounts. [1] https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr...
ot 1mo ago
Subscription plans share data by default (it is possible to opt out though)

no-name-here 1mo ago

I enabled all data sharing settings but still don’t have a message about free use on that screen - the help page says free tokens are available to “some” users - is that 1% of users, 40% of users, etc? Does your screen have the message that you’re getting free tokens? https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-controls/sharing https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr...

moonu 1mo ago
Yeah, I have it enabled for just one of my projects, and it says "You're enrolled for complimentary daily tokens." Haven't been billed for any usage with this. Their tooltip doesn't mention the newer models, but it works for those too. I used them in a recent project that I knew wouldn't hit the rate limits. Not sure how eligibility is decided though.
qingcharles 1mo ago
I had no idea about this before. I just enabled it. You're eligible for free daily usage on traffic shared with OpenAI. Up to 250 thousand tokens per day across gpt-5.4, gpt-5.2, gpt-5.1, gpt-5.1-codex, gpt-5, gpt-5-codex, gpt-5-chat-latest, gpt-4.1, gpt-4o, o1, and o3 Up to 2.5 million tokens per day across gpt-5.4-mini, gpt-5.4-nano, gpt-5.1-codex-mini, gpt-5-mini, gpt-5-nano, gpt-4.1-mini, gpt-4.1-nano, gpt-4o-mini, o1-mini, o3-mini, o4-mini, and codex-mini-latest. Usage beyond these limits, as well as usage for other models, will be billed at standard rates. Some limitations apply. Learn more.

ignoramous 1mo ago

In my experience using DeepSeek v4 Flash free tier (context size limited to ~200k), the model isn't nearly as good as the paid one for agentic coding tasks. Unsure, if that's the case with these other providers too, though I wouldn't be surprised if it indeed is.

markasoftware 1mo ago
There is no official dsv4 flash free tier api afaik. Did you get it from open router or something? Likely quantized. The paid official dsv4 api already shares data with deepseek for training

isaacbreen 1mo ago

1 million free tokens per day might sound like a lot. But that equates to something like 20 minutes of actual coding usage, because cached inputs are counted towards that limit. It's still great for running big singular requests, like solving some math problem with GPT 5.6 Sol Pro max reasoning effort.