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Shoutout to Purism... if you got the loot. https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/ https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/

joey64 1mo ago
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- pdabbadabba 1mo ago
  As an American, I also find this repulsive.
- sroerick 1mo ago
  Even if you're sour on American exceptionalism, this seems like a valid and good product to me, both from a privacy standpoint and from an ethical labor standpoint? Am I the only one who remembers the suicide nets at Foxconn?
  - deleted 1mo ago
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  - lstodd 1mo ago
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hamper653 1mo ago
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- lenerdenator 1mo ago
  That's more of a German/Austrian thing, really.
  - hamper653 1mo ago
    Are you telling me the US don’t actually make anything, not even their guns?
    - lenerdenator 1mo ago
      No, I'm telling you that a lot of guns, particularly pistols, sold here are made in either Germany or Austria. Well, more Austria.
axus 1mo ago
Most distributors are based in the US with the exception of large integrated circuits that are made in a variety of countries where those companies do fabrication (US, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan); an example is the NXP CPU we use from their fabrication in South Korea. Boards: M.2 Modem Module China, inquire for USA/EU options M.2 WiFi/BT Module India, inquire for more options It's not going to win the market, but I applaud anyone providing more choices.
filmgirlcw 1mo ago
Anyone looking at this should recognize that the hardware itself is nearly a decade old (and has performance of a mid-range Android from 11 or 12 years ago), the software is buggy and not fully baked (the version of Debian they JUST moved to has lost normal Debian Security team updates and maintenance has moved to the Debian LTS team) and the company has a history of extreme delays in shipping and customer service. People can spend their money however they choose, but I wouldn’t spend $1800 on a phone like that if you want to actually use it as a phone. And before buying it as underpowered “portable” Linux computer (the battery life is not good even though I hear suspend mostly works now), this is still outrageously overpriced even by current hardware pricing.
- seb1204 1mo ago
  All valid points to consider. I'd like to add that I'm for one don't need the latest and greatest apps, don't run games so email, SMS, messaging, YouTube or Netflix are all that are needed in terms of compute.
  - MrDrMcCoy 1mo ago
    I'm surprised even those things work for you considering how unbearably slow Phosh and Linux apps are on the Furiphone with much more modern everything.
    - fsflover 1mo ago
      The slowness of Phosh is purely a consequence of the current, unoptimized software state. When I run Waydroid on PureOS on my Librem 5, it feels much smoother, despite being another layer on top of the OS.
      - seba_dos1 1mo ago
        I bet the vast majority of that slowness people complain about comes purely from GTK renderers. A motivated contributor could do wonders there.

joey64 1mo ago

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pdabbadabba 1mo ago
As an American, I also find this repulsive.
sroerick 1mo ago
Even if you're sour on American exceptionalism, this seems like a valid and good product to me, both from a privacy standpoint and from an ethical labor standpoint? Am I the only one who remembers the suicide nets at Foxconn?
- deleted 1mo ago
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- lstodd 1mo ago
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hamper653 1mo ago

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lenerdenator 1mo ago
That's more of a German/Austrian thing, really.
- hamper653 1mo ago
  Are you telling me the US don’t actually make anything, not even their guns?
  - lenerdenator 1mo ago
    No, I'm telling you that a lot of guns, particularly pistols, sold here are made in either Germany or Austria. Well, more Austria.

axus 1mo ago

Most distributors are based in the US with the exception of large integrated circuits that are made in a variety of countries where those companies do fabrication (US, Taiwan, South Korea, Japan); an example is the NXP CPU we use from their fabrication in South Korea. Boards: M.2 Modem Module China, inquire for USA/EU options M.2 WiFi/BT Module India, inquire for more options It's not going to win the market, but I applaud anyone providing more choices.

filmgirlcw 1mo ago

Anyone looking at this should recognize that the hardware itself is nearly a decade old (and has performance of a mid-range Android from 11 or 12 years ago), the software is buggy and not fully baked (the version of Debian they JUST moved to has lost normal Debian Security team updates and maintenance has moved to the Debian LTS team) and the company has a history of extreme delays in shipping and customer service. People can spend their money however they choose, but I wouldn’t spend $1800 on a phone like that if you want to actually use it as a phone. And before buying it as underpowered “portable” Linux computer (the battery life is not good even though I hear suspend mostly works now), this is still outrageously overpriced even by current hardware pricing.

seb1204 1mo ago
All valid points to consider. I'd like to add that I'm for one don't need the latest and greatest apps, don't run games so email, SMS, messaging, YouTube or Netflix are all that are needed in terms of compute.
- MrDrMcCoy 1mo ago
  I'm surprised even those things work for you considering how unbearably slow Phosh and Linux apps are on the Furiphone with much more modern everything.
  - fsflover 1mo ago
    The slowness of Phosh is purely a consequence of the current, unoptimized software state. When I run Waydroid on PureOS on my Librem 5, it feels much smoother, despite being another layer on top of the OS.
    - seba_dos1 1mo ago
      I bet the vast majority of that slowness people complain about comes purely from GTK renderers. A motivated contributor could do wonders there.