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I have donated to them for many years and will stop now. I will not support any kind of union busting.

by sassbadger 2mo ago

TSiege 2mo ago
Be sure to tell them why you stopped. I’ll be doing the same. Hopefully this pressures them to give up on this
- juleiie 2mo ago
  [flagged]
  - nearlyepic 2mo ago
    > Don’t be afraid of destroying things. Wikipedia isn’t unique or precious really. Surely you’re joking?
    - applfanboysbgon 2mo ago
      Before LLMs, Wikipedia was the greatest source of misinformation in all of human history. It is at best good for satiating an idle curiosity with some plausible-sounding fun facts to amuse oneself with without care for whether they're really true or not, but so many people rely on it for so much more, and I have little doubt it causes more harm than good. Real encyclopedias with professional standards exist.
      - juleiie 2mo ago
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        culi 2mo ago
        What do you teach?
      - Pay08 2mo ago
        What truly grinds my gears about Wikipedia isn't the amount of false information but the amount of uncorroborated info. The amount of times I've read an article that made large, sweeping claims about something and then not have any citations, often not even a "citation needed" box should be frankly unacceptable.
        britta 2mo ago
        Come help! Here's the August 2026 unreferenced articles backlog drive, with instructions and a leaderboard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unreferenced_articles/Backlog_drives/August_2026 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unrefere...
    - inigyou 2mo ago
      I hope they mean the project is precious but the formal organisation that funds the project isn't. Like Firefox and Mozilla.
  - DonHopkins 1mo ago
    You are clearly deteriorating and self destructive, especially as evidenced by your recent flagged "randomize skin tone" rant. Well do you apologize for threatening my life, and rescind your death threats? Or are you still threatening to shoot me? You need to stop making death threats on Hacker News, get rid of your gun, and get help. If you need to talk, the 988 Lifeline is here. At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be difficult. https://988lifeline.org https://988lifeline.org
inigyou 2mo ago
Never too late to read WP:CANCER also.
- moehm 2mo ago
  Here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_Cancer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_C...
stasomatic 2mo ago
They have enough employees to need a union and a board? It's a CRUD PHP site that I could run from a VPS (joking ofc, but not that much off). I've never worked in an industry where unionization was a thing, but my general understanding is that the unions are protectionist dreaming of things that were true before but not today, but they want to keep things as they were. Good luck. I've benefited from Wikipedia, but I don't romanticize it. Either side of the table can't stop the AI onslaught, they are all out of jobs. Another Wikimedia will rise up from the ashes.
- cool_dude85 2mo ago
  >my general understanding is that the unions are protectionist dreaming of things that were true before but not today, but they want to keep things as they were. This mindset really baffles me, as a unionized guy with a white collar email job. Don't you, like, want things that your employer doesn't want to give you? Job protection? Better than CoL wage growth? Work from home? Internal job progression? Clear, understandable job factors agreed upon in advance? The union negotiates for what its members want. There's nothing magical about unions that mean, like, a white collar union is going to be negotiating for all its members to get a new hard hat every year, just because that's what auto worker unions do.
  - stasomatic 2mo ago
    I don’t “understand it” because it’s an antagonist relationship, us vs them. How’s that solved anything ever without violence? I don’t know what the solution is, we’ve tried a few. Perhaps there are none. Do you want to keep trying for your union to earn their seat at the table each year proving their worth, or “else”? There is going to be another meeting where the bosses from each side will sip martinis and introduce their spouses and then they depart the galla in long black limos. It’s been written. P.S. Your employer, your chosen object of warship, your partner or children, owe you nothing. Gotta find a way to reconcile that.
- lukeschlather 2mo ago
  Wikimedia requires a board. IMO that board should include at least one representative selected by the employees (i.e. a union rep.) It has one seat reserved for the founder. This governance question doesn't go away if another Wikimedia rises from the ashes. You still will still need a board making decisions, and someone needs to pick the members of the board. Right now there are 8 seats selected by "the community," 7 seats selected by the board, and 1 seat selected by the founder.

I have donated to them for many years and will stop now. I will not support any kind of union busting.

TSiege 2mo ago

Be sure to tell them why you stopped. I’ll be doing the same. Hopefully this pressures them to give up on this

juleiie 2mo ago
[flagged]
- nearlyepic 2mo ago
  > Don’t be afraid of destroying things. Wikipedia isn’t unique or precious really. Surely you’re joking?
  - applfanboysbgon 2mo ago
    Before LLMs, Wikipedia was the greatest source of misinformation in all of human history. It is at best good for satiating an idle curiosity with some plausible-sounding fun facts to amuse oneself with without care for whether they're really true or not, but so many people rely on it for so much more, and I have little doubt it causes more harm than good. Real encyclopedias with professional standards exist.
    - juleiie 2mo ago
      [flagged]
      - culi 2mo ago
        What do you teach?
    - Pay08 2mo ago
      What truly grinds my gears about Wikipedia isn't the amount of false information but the amount of uncorroborated info. The amount of times I've read an article that made large, sweeping claims about something and then not have any citations, often not even a "citation needed" box should be frankly unacceptable.
      - britta 2mo ago
        Come help! Here's the August 2026 unreferenced articles backlog drive, with instructions and a leaderboard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unreferenced_articles/Backlog_drives/August_2026 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Unrefere...
  - inigyou 2mo ago
    I hope they mean the project is precious but the formal organisation that funds the project isn't. Like Firefox and Mozilla.
- DonHopkins 1mo ago
  You are clearly deteriorating and self destructive, especially as evidenced by your recent flagged "randomize skin tone" rant. Well do you apologize for threatening my life, and rescind your death threats? Or are you still threatening to shoot me? You need to stop making death threats on Hacker News, get rid of your gun, and get help. If you need to talk, the 988 Lifeline is here. At the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, we understand that life's challenges can sometimes be difficult. https://988lifeline.org https://988lifeline.org

inigyou 2mo ago

Never too late to read WP:CANCER also.

moehm 2mo ago
Here is the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_Cancer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Guy_Macon/Wikipedia_has_C...

stasomatic 2mo ago

They have enough employees to need a union and a board? It's a CRUD PHP site that I could run from a VPS (joking ofc, but not that much off). I've never worked in an industry where unionization was a thing, but my general understanding is that the unions are protectionist dreaming of things that were true before but not today, but they want to keep things as they were. Good luck. I've benefited from Wikipedia, but I don't romanticize it. Either side of the table can't stop the AI onslaught, they are all out of jobs. Another Wikimedia will rise up from the ashes.

cool_dude85 2mo ago
>my general understanding is that the unions are protectionist dreaming of things that were true before but not today, but they want to keep things as they were. This mindset really baffles me, as a unionized guy with a white collar email job. Don't you, like, want things that your employer doesn't want to give you? Job protection? Better than CoL wage growth? Work from home? Internal job progression? Clear, understandable job factors agreed upon in advance? The union negotiates for what its members want. There's nothing magical about unions that mean, like, a white collar union is going to be negotiating for all its members to get a new hard hat every year, just because that's what auto worker unions do.
- stasomatic 2mo ago
  I don’t “understand it” because it’s an antagonist relationship, us vs them. How’s that solved anything ever without violence? I don’t know what the solution is, we’ve tried a few. Perhaps there are none. Do you want to keep trying for your union to earn their seat at the table each year proving their worth, or “else”? There is going to be another meeting where the bosses from each side will sip martinis and introduce their spouses and then they depart the galla in long black limos. It’s been written. P.S. Your employer, your chosen object of warship, your partner or children, owe you nothing. Gotta find a way to reconcile that.
lukeschlather 2mo ago
Wikimedia requires a board. IMO that board should include at least one representative selected by the employees (i.e. a union rep.) It has one seat reserved for the founder. This governance question doesn't go away if another Wikimedia rises from the ashes. You still will still need a board making decisions, and someone needs to pick the members of the board. Right now there are 8 seats selected by "the community," 7 seats selected by the board, and 1 seat selected by the founder.