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This is nice, but Apple essentially blocks sideloading (outside test flight environment) and Google is moving there as well. While it has never been easier to p

by storus 2mo ago

This is nice, but Apple essentially blocks sideloading (outside test flight environment) and Google is moving there as well. While it has never been easier to produce individualized software, it was never more difficult on the official platforms, unless one wants to create their own OS (at some point that might be possible as well).

WhyNotHugo 1mo ago
Plenty of Android phones run Linux. If you're the kind of person who's going to AI-develop your own software for personal use, I can't imagine being adverse to running a non-mainstream OS (and it can always be a secondary phone).
erelong 2mo ago
maybe we need more like raspberry pi smartphone-sized tablets projects so people can sideload whatever they want like like "RasPad" (or other devices like the Pinephone)
- callc 2mo ago
  s/sideload/install/g Sideloading implies a subversive action, which we should not be primed to think.
  - storus 2mo ago
    Sideloading also means installing an app you don't want to publish on any marketplace (for your own or family/friends use). Is there a better word for it?
    - callc 2mo ago
      Installing. The ability to install software on your own device should be independent of any marketplace.
dreamcompiler 2mo ago
What's the current state of web apps on IOS? Does Safari yet support local databases well enough to build useful web apps? Pretty much every app I can think of building for my family could just be a website iff local browser-resident persistent data was a thing. (And in some cases I wouldn't even need that if they were going to be always-online.)
- fallinditch 2mo ago
  I used dexie js from dexie.org to persist indexedDB, vendoring the script in a sidecar js file or inlining it - good for your iOS persistent local db, android too.
  - yladiz 2mo ago
    I could also recommend SQLite with OPFS, if you’re comfortable with adding a web worker. I personally find it a lot easier to reason about than IndexedDB (even with a wrapper, it’s still a bit tricky to work with, and you get the power of SQL with SQLite).
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scotty79 2mo ago
GrapheneOS/LineageOS/e/OS is fine. And if I were to choose between ad infested cookie cutter app store and a handful of app crafted specifically for me the choice is really simple. As for the banking and identity apps, I probably shouldn't be keeping them on my big cool phone that might eventually get stolen.
vagab0nd 1mo ago
> outside test flight environment This is the way. I have a setup that refreshes all my apps at 4am so they never expire. To get around the 3-app limit, I build all the features I need into one super app.

by storus 2mo ago

WhyNotHugo 1mo ago

Plenty of Android phones run Linux. If you're the kind of person who's going to AI-develop your own software for personal use, I can't imagine being adverse to running a non-mainstream OS (and it can always be a secondary phone).

erelong 2mo ago

maybe we need more like raspberry pi smartphone-sized tablets projects so people can sideload whatever they want like like "RasPad" (or other devices like the Pinephone)

callc 2mo ago
s/sideload/install/g Sideloading implies a subversive action, which we should not be primed to think.
- storus 2mo ago
  Sideloading also means installing an app you don't want to publish on any marketplace (for your own or family/friends use). Is there a better word for it?
  - callc 2mo ago
    Installing. The ability to install software on your own device should be independent of any marketplace.

dreamcompiler 2mo ago

What's the current state of web apps on IOS? Does Safari yet support local databases well enough to build useful web apps? Pretty much every app I can think of building for my family could just be a website iff local browser-resident persistent data was a thing. (And in some cases I wouldn't even need that if they were going to be always-online.)

fallinditch 2mo ago
I used dexie js from dexie.org to persist indexedDB, vendoring the script in a sidecar js file or inlining it - good for your iOS persistent local db, android too.
- yladiz 2mo ago
  I could also recommend SQLite with OPFS, if you’re comfortable with adding a web worker. I personally find it a lot easier to reason about than IndexedDB (even with a wrapper, it’s still a bit tricky to work with, and you get the power of SQL with SQLite).

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scotty79 2mo ago

GrapheneOS/LineageOS/e/OS is fine. And if I were to choose between ad infested cookie cutter app store and a handful of app crafted specifically for me the choice is really simple. As for the banking and identity apps, I probably shouldn't be keeping them on my big cool phone that might eventually get stolen.

vagab0nd 1mo ago

> outside test flight environment This is the way. I have a setup that refreshes all my apps at 4am so they never expire. To get around the 3-app limit, I build all the features I need into one super app.