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Of course a 1960's design isn't adapted to current weather conditions. That doesn't mean the whole technology is useless, like so many commenters imply. Any ne
by Luc 2mo ago
Of course a 1960's design isn't adapted to current weather conditions. That doesn't mean the whole technology is useless, like so many commenters imply.
Any new build can and will include cooling adapted to hotter conditions.
- exploderate 2mo agoIt's not matter of "can", it's a matter of "how much does it cost?" and "who pays for that?".
- expedition32 2mo agoPrecisely why the Netherlands does not have nuclear power plants. Cheap coal. Cheap oil. Cheap gas. And now cheap wind and solar. They just absolutely cannot math the math which leaves ideology and this ain't France.
- jacquesm 2mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_the_Netherlands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_the_Netherlan...
- pseudony 2mo agoThat math leaves out externalities when pricing gas, oil and coal. You may have heard of a few fires going on in Europe in addition to nuclear plants shutting down? Beyond that, those resources are also the lifeline for a dictatorship in the east causing increase defense spending. There definitely is no such thing as cheap gas, oil or coal for Europeans, all things considered
- cucumber3732842 2mo ago[flagged]
- roenxi 2mo agoYou're probably going to struggle to come up with a motive for that behaviour. It is much more likely that they simply aren't very thoughtful. Complex webs of deception in a public argument are certainly possible, but it generally relies on some group having a clear financial incentive to misdirect. That doesn't exist in the nuclear debate.
- cucumber3732842 2mo ago>You're probably going to struggle to come up with a motive for that behaviour. No, I'm not. Not in the slightest. Number in top right go up. Monkey brain feel goooooood when that happen. Monkey brain keep doing behavior that make that happen. > It is much more likely that they simply aren't very thoughtful. They're plenty thoughtful. They'll contrive all sorts of arcane logic, plausibly deniable lies and witty turns of phrase (some of which are quite impressive). What they're not is self aware (the dishonesty is a byproduct of that). > Complex webs of deception Those are possible but I don't think that's what's happening here. > but it generally relies on some group having a clear financial incentive to misdirect. Internet fanboys work for free. They have no financial incentive. Therefore we fall back to the monkey brain incentive.
- one33seven 2mo ago> a clear financial incentive to misdirect. That doesn't exist in the nuclear debate. It's very obviously not in the interests of "big fossile" to go either solar or nuclear.
- roenxi 2mo agoBecause HN was a forum for oil executives to gather and discuss prices? Big fossil isn't in the room here. It would surprise nobody if there were 0 people in the comments who even work in a fossil fuel company.
- one33seven 2mo agoThere's a nuclear reaction in the sky beaming free energy to us, let's just use that
- chpatrick 2mo agoHungary is already using that (today we were 90% carbon-free thanks to solar), the problem is what to do when it gets dark.
- shalom1112 2mo ago[dead]
- ccozan 2mo agoBatteries? Starting this year, in Romania you cannot put new PV capacity online without the storage for it, is mandatory. Possibly for existing ones, but I am not sure.
- chpatrick 2mo agoThey're being installed but it's going to take a while.
- SiempreViernes 2mo agoMuch faster than any nuclear build though.
- chpatrick 2mo agoSure, but it doesn't solve today's problem with the low Danube.
- imoverclocked 2mo agoMechanical ones so we aren’t left with a waste disaster in 10-20 years?
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- riffraff 2mo agoThe one that shut down in Romania is a CANDU, built in the 80s.
- Maledictus 2mo agoMore like a CANNOTDU ;)
- croes 1mo agoAnd new builds take a lot of time and a lot of money. And then you habe the whole Russian drone war thing, where concentrating so much energy production on one point maybe be a bad idea