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LLMs is quickly became commodities. US AI labs like OpenAI is losing their moat. Hyperscalers and data center owners who can sell cheap token will win

okrad 2mo ago
I believe Codex harness is pretty sticky though I haven’t tried many others. Does anyone else provide a harness of that quality?
- conradludgate 2mo ago
  Their harness is indeed nice, but we're using it against our own AI Gateway at work. Right now we only expose GPT models on it, but I imagine it's possible to add our own models eventually
- nvarsj 2mo ago
  Pi harness with subagents is pretty great. I’m using it for everything now.
  - yeswecatan 2mo ago
    How are you handling subagents?
    - anderber 2mo ago
      Usually the main agent can handle creating subagents
    - RALaBarge 2mo ago
      You say hey llm spin up some agents to do x y and z
    - nvarsj 2mo ago
      tintinweb/pi-subagents. Then I use superpowers and it spins up subagents automatically. Works really well and you can customise the models and efforts you want to use with local AGENTS.md. I’m primarily using gpt-5.6 and then opus for reviews.
- verdverm 2mo ago
  opencode is highly regarded, I use it exclusively
  - jki275 2mo ago
    I've used open code extensively -- it's not bad, but it's not anywhere near the level of the codex application.
  - versteegen 2mo ago
    ...but we're talking about compaction, and opencode's compaction is (or was) terrible. I've seen so many horrible problems that I keep it disabled (with an envvar flag, because even the config flag to turn it off was broken).
    - verdverm 2mo ago
      I don't use compaction, I keep my context limited, my sessions fresh, and have agents write markdown files as needed
  - Roark66 2mo ago
    Open code is cool once I added the ctrl-o function to it (show thinking and command outputs at will instead of on by default), but sadly I don't think it got merged by the team. I forgot why. But I can't use an AI cli without that feature.
    - verdverm 2mo ago
      you can turn those on through the existing menu system
ux266478 2mo ago
I have so much gratitude to the frontier companies who did all the extremely complicated research and development, model by model. It already feels difficult to remember how much capital it really took. Thank you for getting us to this point.

okrad 2mo ago

I believe Codex harness is pretty sticky though I haven’t tried many others. Does anyone else provide a harness of that quality?

conradludgate 2mo ago
Their harness is indeed nice, but we're using it against our own AI Gateway at work. Right now we only expose GPT models on it, but I imagine it's possible to add our own models eventually
nvarsj 2mo ago
Pi harness with subagents is pretty great. I’m using it for everything now.
- yeswecatan 2mo ago
  How are you handling subagents?
  - anderber 2mo ago
    Usually the main agent can handle creating subagents
  - RALaBarge 2mo ago
    You say hey llm spin up some agents to do x y and z
  - nvarsj 2mo ago
    tintinweb/pi-subagents. Then I use superpowers and it spins up subagents automatically. Works really well and you can customise the models and efforts you want to use with local AGENTS.md. I’m primarily using gpt-5.6 and then opus for reviews.
verdverm 2mo ago
opencode is highly regarded, I use it exclusively
- jki275 2mo ago
  I've used open code extensively -- it's not bad, but it's not anywhere near the level of the codex application.
- versteegen 2mo ago
  ...but we're talking about compaction, and opencode's compaction is (or was) terrible. I've seen so many horrible problems that I keep it disabled (with an envvar flag, because even the config flag to turn it off was broken).
  - verdverm 2mo ago
    I don't use compaction, I keep my context limited, my sessions fresh, and have agents write markdown files as needed
- Roark66 2mo ago
  Open code is cool once I added the ctrl-o function to it (show thinking and command outputs at will instead of on by default), but sadly I don't think it got merged by the team. I forgot why. But I can't use an AI cli without that feature.
  - verdverm 2mo ago
    you can turn those on through the existing menu system

ux266478 2mo ago

I have so much gratitude to the frontier companies who did all the extremely complicated research and development, model by model. It already feels difficult to remember how much capital it really took. Thank you for getting us to this point.