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That's an unusually low electric rate for the US - way below the lowest state average which is Idaho at 12.4 cents. It's certainly possible that you are getting
by mdasen 2mo ago
That's an unusually low electric rate for the US - way below the lowest state average which is Idaho at 12.4 cents. It's certainly possible that you are getting 7.5 cents including delivery, but I've had friends say that they're "getting 13 cents per kWh" here in Massachusetts, but that's just the supply rate and the delivery is another ~18 cents.
There are parts of states like Grant County Washington that have cheap hydro power, but it's very rare for power to be that cheap in the US. Even if this applies to you, it won't apply to the vast majority of people on here who will have electric rates 2-4x higher.
Average electric rates by region:
New England 28.1 cents
Mid Atlantic 25.1 cents
East North Central 20.8 cents
West North Central 14.8 cents
South Atlantic 16.1 cents
East South Central 15.5 cents
Mountain 14.6 cents
Pacific Contiguous 26.1 cents
Pacific Noncontiguous 42.1 cents
https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=epmt_5_6_a https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph...
- AgentMatt 2mo agoThey are most likely not based in the US, but converting to USD to make comparison easier.
- walrus01 2mo agoI am not in Quebec but Quebec hydro rate D for standard residential would be one example of around what I pay. https://www.hydroquebec.com/residential/customer-space/rates/rate-d.html https://www.hydroquebec.com/residential/customer-space/rates... Another example would be Manitoba hydro All figures in Canadian currency https://www.hydro.mb.ca/account/rates/residential/ https://www.hydro.mb.ca/account/rates/residential/
- brailsafe 2mo agoSpecifying USD is indeed often a service usually offered by people born elsewhere for people born elsewhere. Americans seem rarely know about these mysterious places, where bills can come in all sorts of funny sizes and colours. (kind of joking)
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- rootusrootus 2mo agoA lot of people quoting low rates are also just referring to their off-peak rate. This is pretty common in EV discussions. It's not exactly a fair argument there, either, because the flip side of having an off-peak rate is that the on-peak rate is usually quite a lot higher. So the true effective rate is a bit higher, somewhere in the middle depending on usage pattern.
- searealist 2mo agoIt's easy to have your EV only charge off-peak, though. It's just a setting.
- rootusrootus 2mo agoMy point is that the tradeoff to get off-peak pricing is that on-peak is way, way more expensive. So you can charge the EV off-peak to maximize the savings, but everything else you do during on-peak time costs way more. Using myself as an example: I adjust my A/C to run outside of 5pm-9pm (peak) if at all possible, we try to avoid pointless high-draw usage during that same window, and both of our EVs hold off charging until after 9pm. My rate from 5pm-9pm is 0.43/kWh. My rate after 9pm is 0.09/kWh. The flat rate alternative, if I did not want to worry about time of day, would be 0.21/kWh. These prices are all-in, including transmission and distribution/whatever. It would be dishonest to say that my EVs only cost me 0.09/kWh to operate, which on it's face is a claim to paying over 50% less. In reality, time of day pricing typically saves me somewhere between 10% and 15% in an average month compared with flat rate.
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- searealist 2mo agoFair point. I guess it depends on if you would be using ToU otherwise. It looks like about 50% of Californians use ToU plans, but the number is only 10% nation-wide.
- mindslight 2mo ago
- murderfs 2mo ago> Pacific Contiguous 26.1 cents This is a bit misleading, because it's combining the 50 cents/kWh from California with 15ish cents/kWh in Oregon and Washington. Seattle City Light, for example, charges 13.38 cents/kWh on flat rate pricing, and far less with time-of-use billing (8 cents/kWh on off-peak).
- radium3d 2mo agoIf you run off solar with battery backup, you can achieve lower than those rates! Look at Time of Use rates. The super off peak rates instantly become the max price point once you pair TOU with Solar + battery.
- nightski 2mo agoNot the parent, but here is one location that has rates in that range in the U.S. https://casscountyelectric.com/rates https://casscountyelectric.com/rates
- zdragnar 2mo agoI'm actually getting 11 cents in winter, 13 in summer, but my utility company is a co-op. Average for my state is I think 19 cents. I think you can get down to around 8 if you are signed up for an interruptible load, or a dedicated off peak load, depending on the company, but yeah, standard rates aren't that low.
- flutas 2mo agoI'm in Arkansas and get rates fairly similar as quoted. From my last bill > KWH USAGE 2590 - $183.37 There's a base customer cost of $18 on top of that, but yeah ~$0.077/kWh taxes included.
- mambru 2mo agoIs that for a month or a year?
- seafoam 2mo agoMy monthly bills are similar to this, near Arkansas. Last one was $212 for 2,146 kwh between June 8 - July 6 (28 Days)
- hdgvhicv 2mo ago76kWh a day, does that include a lot of EV mileage?!
- flutas 2mo agoFor me at least, yes but it's not an EV specific rate plan just our general one. ~80mi a day + AC is the vast majority of my use (for why so much AC - it's 102f [39c] and feels like 115f [46c] right now as I type this).
- peterleiser 2mo agoNashville Electric Service rates are 12.0 cents / kWh. Flat rate, no peak or off peak rates for residential.
- bravoetch 2mo agoFort Collins, CO is probably where that rate is. I don't know of anywhere cheaper for residential electric.
- bloggie 2mo agoI pay a little less than that though I’m limited to 50 kW average load. Delivery is a fixed monthly fee, about $10 USD/month.
- tda 2mo agoTo me (EU) that seems like a pretty generous limit. A normal house connection here is limited to 8kW single phase or 17kW for a 3 phase connection. You can get more, but that is very uncommon and gets expensive quickly
- nextaccountic 2mo ago> That's an unusually low electric rate for the US What about buying your own solar panels and batteries?