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Wero is a European wide payment system. In the Netherlands it replaces iDeal, which has been the (almost) universal payment method for webshops in the Netherlan

by fjfaase 2mo ago

Wero is a European wide payment system. In the Netherlands it replaces iDeal, which has been the (almost) universal payment method for webshops in the Netherlands. In not all European countries such payment systems are used as widespread as in the Netherlands. Wero is actually a payment broker as it usually connects with the payment system (often a banking app) of your choice.

toomuchtodo 2mo ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48648574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48648574 (comment with Wero details)
Aachen 2mo ago
> Wero is actually a payment broker as it usually connects with the payment system (often a banking app) of your choice. Except you don't have a choice. It's not like iDeal where you can just use your bank's regular login method to pay; this requires making a big tech account to download some app where maybe it then works if it likes your device. IDeal always worked in a browser. Why change a running system with a less-compatible one?
- haagch 2mo ago
  I feel the same but I'm starting to think that EPI is right to not care. Nobody from any tech media seems to be pointing out the Google/Apple smartphone dependency, let alone ask anyone at EPI about it. If they do, at least they're not writing about the results. The only article I know of that ever asked the question is actually from the press of the German government: https://www.das-parlament.de/wirtschaft/finanzen/wir-bauen-mit-wero-ein-paneuropaeisches-zahlverfahren https://www.das-parlament.de/wirtschaft/finanzen/wir-bauen-m... "What about smartphones that run on free and open-source software instead of the commercial operating systems used by the iPhone or Google? Tanja Müller-Ziegler: This market is still very much a niche one. There are still too few providers, which is why it’s hardly worth offering banking apps for these devices." Other than that I have seen ZERO pressure on this point from the media. Obviously I do think EPI should intrinsically care, but I also am starting to see more and more that from their point of view literally nobody cares, so why should they?
- xela79 2mo ago
  > It's not like iDeal where you can just use your bank's regular login method to pay; this requires making a big tech account to download some app where maybe it then works if it likes your device. in Belgium wero doesn't need any "big tech account" or whatever that means. it's natively build into banking apps , eg: https://www.kbc.be/retail/en/products/payments/self-banking/wero.html?zone=topnav https://www.kbc.be/retail/en/products/payments/self-banking/... https://www.bnpparibasfortis.be/en/public/individuals/daily-banking/payments/mobile-payments/wero https://www.bnpparibasfortis.be/en/public/individuals/daily-... etc and since BNP is french, most likely for France peeps same (i)deal
mercer 2mo ago
Since the switch to Wero, I've noticed that I need to do an extra, seemingly pointless click. it's not iDeal!

by fjfaase 2mo ago

toomuchtodo 2mo ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48648574 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48648574 (comment with Wero details)

Aachen 2mo ago

> Wero is actually a payment broker as it usually connects with the payment system (often a banking app) of your choice. Except you don't have a choice. It's not like iDeal where you can just use your bank's regular login method to pay; this requires making a big tech account to download some app where maybe it then works if it likes your device. IDeal always worked in a browser. Why change a running system with a less-compatible one?

haagch 2mo ago
I feel the same but I'm starting to think that EPI is right to not care. Nobody from any tech media seems to be pointing out the Google/Apple smartphone dependency, let alone ask anyone at EPI about it. If they do, at least they're not writing about the results. The only article I know of that ever asked the question is actually from the press of the German government: https://www.das-parlament.de/wirtschaft/finanzen/wir-bauen-mit-wero-ein-paneuropaeisches-zahlverfahren https://www.das-parlament.de/wirtschaft/finanzen/wir-bauen-m... "What about smartphones that run on free and open-source software instead of the commercial operating systems used by the iPhone or Google? Tanja Müller-Ziegler: This market is still very much a niche one. There are still too few providers, which is why it’s hardly worth offering banking apps for these devices." Other than that I have seen ZERO pressure on this point from the media. Obviously I do think EPI should intrinsically care, but I also am starting to see more and more that from their point of view literally nobody cares, so why should they?
xela79 2mo ago
> It's not like iDeal where you can just use your bank's regular login method to pay; this requires making a big tech account to download some app where maybe it then works if it likes your device. in Belgium wero doesn't need any "big tech account" or whatever that means. it's natively build into banking apps , eg: https://www.kbc.be/retail/en/products/payments/self-banking/wero.html?zone=topnav https://www.kbc.be/retail/en/products/payments/self-banking/... https://www.bnpparibasfortis.be/en/public/individuals/daily-banking/payments/mobile-payments/wero https://www.bnpparibasfortis.be/en/public/individuals/daily-... etc and since BNP is french, most likely for France peeps same (i)deal

mercer 2mo ago

Since the switch to Wero, I've noticed that I need to do an extra, seemingly pointless click. it's not iDeal!