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But that did save lives; I was able to know my family had Covid before the symptoms showed up. Happened with a lot of other people too.
by KitN 2mo ago
But that did save lives; I was able to know my family had Covid before the symptoms showed up. Happened with a lot of other people too.
- t0bia_s 2mo ago[flagged]
- npunt 2mo agoFwiw what you are describing is literally survivorship bias.
- stinkbeetle 2mo agoYes, similarly the other side of people who survived authoritarian governments.
- zakki 2mo agoI don't think it is a survivorship bias if most people survive from COVID19.
- giantg2 2mo agoWe'd have to see the data to say wether it was true or bias. Perhaps comparing similar nations where one had Bluetooth contact tracing and the other didn't. I'm skeptical that it made much difference either way compared to the other factors.
- t0bia_s 2mo agoYes and I did not start with it.
- opem 2mo agoIf they had administered properly people wouldn't have been to the streets and spread the virus in the first place!
- aeternum 2mo agoIndeed, and it would have saved far more lives if leveraged the app to have hazmat crews come in a forcibly carry the infected to quarantine zones.
- markdown 2mo agoSadly that wasn't possible in the US political climate and maybe a million people lost their lives as a result.
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- dwedge 2mo agoAs much as he says a lot of stupid stuff this bleach one always annoyed me because the full clip clearly showed that he wasn't talking about bleach he was talking about looking to find something as effective as bleach, and he was repeating something from an advisor who then pretended to not hear him when he asked. It always seemed like a media setup and I always dislike those no matter how bad the target is
- bacheaul 2mo agoI think they're being facetious, this is basically a distopian movie plot point.
- cutterl6 2mo agoI doubt it, unless their hazmat suits are bullet-proof.
- aeternum 2mo agoAgreed, and I'm happy to live in a country where this is likely true. The only thing more deadly than pandemics are governments that gained sufficient power to round up their citizens systematically in the name of the public good.
- mannanj 2mo agoWas your short term safety at the expense of long term safety? (assuming rights erosion and government failures ultimately harms safety long-term).
- dredmorbius 2mo agoMedicine is literally the source of the concept of side effects, the idea that some helpful interventions have simultaneous harmful impacts. For large-scale infectious disease --- epidemiology and public health --- quarantine and infection/contact tracing are very tried and true containment methods. Yes, these impose costs, particularly on individual liberties. What's key is having a well-governed, principled, high-integrity, trustworthy government which makes clearly-justified decisions as to when to impose such restrictions, and when to lift them. Sadly, this has become more difficult in recent years.
- mannanj 2mo agoAgreed. The theory is there, and even then sounds like it would work like you said if the government was "well-governed, principled, high-integrity, trustworthy". Theory rarely works according to the plan in practice, so as we see today, even if those qualities had been a priority of the government (which I don't think they really are - I think the government in USA acts more like a rich-man's proxy tricking you a lot) we need the plan that accounts for some rough spots or edge cases.